Forums

Current state of the USCF

Sort:
banjoman

The United States Chess Federation is in a bad way.  Various board members are fighting an all-out war for control of the organization, and expensive lawsuits have been filed.  I have read a little about who is suing whom and why, but it is hard to get a neutral account of what is happening.  Look at wikipedia to learn more.

Nevertheless, I know exactly why I am voting for the "reform" candidates in the current election to the executive board, namely, Blas Lugo, Mikhail Korenman, and Eric Hecht.  These are the people supported by Susan Polgar, the central figure in the current legal battle (whose guilt or innocence is difficult to determine).  (I am also voting for Brian Mottershead based on his statement in the current issue of Chess Life.)  Here are my reasons:


1.  They are committed to genuine reform of the USCF, so that promotion of the game and attraction of new members are the top priority.

2.  They have the support not only of Polgar but of eminent players like Alexander Onischuk and Yuri Shulman, whose only plausible stake in this election is the well-being of the organization.

3.  The incumbents, especially Bill Goichberg and Jim Berry, have no real accomplishments, and bear *at least* indirect responsibility for the current troubles, which include declining membership, financial waste, dysfunction, and generally low morale throughout the chess community in America.  "Throw the bums out" is usually a good rule of thumb for the voter who can't get to the bottom of every issue, but who knows that a new direction is needed.

4.  Finally, a very simple reason to vote in the reformers is that it seems to be the best way to end the current legal standoff.  If Goichberg and his people are re-elected, the conflict could go on forever and bankrupt the whole USCF.  If the reformers win, (ie, Polgar's people), there will no longer be a conflict between Polgar and the USCF and the whole thing should end quickly.  It would be nice if someone with more information about the lawsuits could comment on this reading of the situation, but it seems like an obvious solution to me.  

I should add that I am by no means a wholehearted supporter of Polgar, despite her many contributions to the chess community worldwide.  She seems to give as much energy to promoting herself and her business interests as she does to promoting the game (is there a limit to how many pictures of oneself one can post on one's blog?).  More importantly, I am not convinced that her defamation lawsuit filed against the USCF is necessary or productive, and it obviously could cause a lot of damage.  In fact, I think she owes the readers of her blog an explanation of her lawsuits and the reasons for them.  On balance, however, I find her side of the story more believable than that of Goichberg and his people.  

I make no claim to be fully informed about this issue, and in fact I am very new to the USCF myself: just joined in February.  I welcome all factual corrections and dissenting opinions, but please be civil.  

If you are a member of the USCF, please remember to submit your vote within the next few weeks.

CPawn

I voted for Berry, Goichberg, and Haring.  To me those 3 have shown the most to get dones what needsto be done to straighten out the USCF mess.  At first i was shocked at what was going on with the USCF, and then i thought why should the USCF be immune to greed, and power like everything else in this woirld.  But no matter what, its so very said to see this great game being torn apart by greed, and power.

Flamma_Aquila

How do you vote?

banjoman

I got a ballot in the current issue of Chess Life, which apparently not all  USCF members receive in the mail.  See if you can get one off the website.

CPawn
rookandladder wrote:

How do you vote?


 If you are 16 or older, you shold have received a ballot attached to the latest issue of Chess Life.  Fill it out and mail it back in

Flamma_Aquila
CPawn wrote:
rookandladder wrote:

How do you vote?


 If you are 16 or older, you shold have received a ballot attached to the latest issue of Chess Life.  Fill it out and mail it back in


I don't get chess life, I have the online only membership.

bomtrown

I haven't seen a chess life in months. Why won't they deliver it to me???

Loomis

benjoman, I'm not certain who would be the best choice for running the USCF would be, but I'd like to respond to a few of your points.

 

Number 4:

On one hand, It may be true that electing Polgar would end her lawsuit against the USCF, resolving that issue in the cheapest possible way for the USCF. On the other hand, that has to be one of the dirtiest campaign ideas in the history of free elections.  Sue the office your running for to give the constituents a reason to vote for you? It's not much of a campaign promise to save the organization money by not suing it, sheesh.

 

Number 2:

What are the plausible stakes of Onischuk and Shulman in this election? You claim the only plausible stakes are the well being of the organization. I will suggest there are others. Onischuk and Shulman are professional chess players, their first priority is making money. The best way to do this is for there to be well funded closed invitationals in the US such as the US championship. The next best way is to be sponsored by their home federation to play internationally. I am in favor of supporting our top players, it builds the reputation of chess in the US and is good for overall chess in the US. But let's be clear, these guys want to spend the USCF's money -- your money (where else does it come from but dues and rating fees?) -- on themselves. Don't be so sure these guys don't have a reason to believe a Polgar run USCF wouldn't be particularly supportive to their needs.

 

Number 3:

Bill Goichberg has no real accomplishments? The man essentially invented scholastic chess, the largest source of memberships in the USCF. He also created the Continental Chess Association which runs the largest annual tournaments in the country (including the World Open).

Loomis

Wow, you guys are constructive and helpful today. He would like to get a chess life at least because that seems the easiest say to have gotten a ballot.

The USCF decided recently they could save money by converting many regular membership types to online memberships. This means you don't get the magazine mailed to you, you have to go online for the content. As far as I know there wasn't really an anouncement about this. I think you can request to receive the magazine.

TheOldReb

A single issue of Chess Life costs about $8- $9 here in Lisbon ! Incredible.

Loomis

I don't know how this thread got hijacked so quickly, but what do you expect for an international publication? They have to ship it there, you know.

banjoman
Loomis wrote:

Number 4:

On one hand, It may be true that electing Polgar would end her lawsuit against the USCF, resolving that issue in the cheapest possible way for the USCF. On the other hand, that has to be one of the dirtiest campaign ideas in the history of free elections.  Sue the office your running for to give the constituents a reason to vote for you? It's not much of a campaign promise to save the organization money by not suing it, sheesh.

 


Thanks for your input.  It's worth pointing out that Polgar is not a candidate in the current election.  She is a member of the board at present, and I do not know whether her term expires this August or at a later time.  My argument for electing the reformers is about what will benefit the USCF, not Ms. Polgar.  

I know that Shulman has promoted chess in this country through his camp and by writing a book.  I seriously doubt his endorsement of the reformers has to do with his financial interests.  At any rate, no one is going to get rich as a result of these elections.  

spoiler1
bomtrown wrote:

I haven't seen a chess life in months. Why won't they deliver it to me???


 you pissed off your postman...

aansel

I am going the opposite way. I am voting for Jim Berry. He is one of the people who saved the US Championship several years ago by running it.I am also voting for Ruth Haring.

I have a hard time supporting someone who is suing the organization they are on the Board off. I think Truong and Polgar were not above board when they ran (never announced they were husband/wife) also have not cooperated with providing information pertaining to the law suits.

Having said all this, the USCF is in big trouble and may not survive. I am just hoping my Life Membership stays good a little while longer.

bomtrown
Reb wrote:

A single issue of Chess Life costs about $8- $9 here in Lisbon ! Incredible.


 But how much does New in Chess cost per issue there?

TheOldReb
bomtrown wrote:
Reb wrote:

A single issue of Chess Life costs about $8- $9 here in Lisbon ! Incredible.


 But how much does New in Chess cost per issue there?


 I havent found NIC here but havent looked very hard either.

TheGrobe

According to this, the current state of the USCF is Tennessee.

ichabod801
rookandladder wrote:
CPawn wrote:
rookandladder wrote:

How do you vote?


 If you are 16 or older, you shold have received a ballot attached to the latest issue of Chess Life.  Fill it out and mail it back in


I don't get chess life, I have the online only membership.


 Same here, but I got a ballot in the mail earlier this week.

As for voting, I just want to know which one of those candidiots is going to bring USCF correspondence chess out of the stone age. I've been waiting a month and a half to get into a online rated quad. That's pathetic.

aansel

The two main correspondence groups in the US are the ICCF and the CCLA--the CCLA does not allow computer assistance. The USCF has a correspondence department but it is not one of the strongest areas.

Loomis

banjoman, you're right that I got a little confused about Polgar running. She is not herself a candidate, but the idea is the same, "elect my candidate and you'll save a lot of money because I won't sue you." It seems like if she really cared about the organization she wouldn't risk bankrupting it either way -- who sues someone who can barely pay their bills!?

I was not commenting on Onischuk or Shulman's character and what their exact motivations are. Just that in general their "only plausible stake in this election is the well-being of the organization" isn't accurate, professional players have personal monetary stakes here. And I don't begrudge them their livelyhood, it just makes me want to take a second look at their endorsements. Your original post made no further commentary on these two players roles in the election and that seemed to me like it had the blinders on. Your most recent post shows that in fact you do know more about at least one of them.