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I won Nelson with the a4 opening
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s_sajwani123

Defeating Nelson with this classic game: https://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-showcase/beating-nelson-the-bot

FriendlyxDemon

Lol it’s easy to beat Nelson. He didn’t even develop his other pieces

geo267

Yes I’ve only beaten him once in the past 3 months! He can be very frustrating at times

shloksinha

Its easy to defeat him

 

Basilisk9

 

Play solid and active, he will blunder soon wink.png

srirampranav43

infact if you don't like nelson BOT then see Gotham chess's how to beat low rated BOTS it may help

srirampranav43

because he too don't like Nelson BOT

let's protest against Nelson BOT lol

Basilisk9

I believe that a good strategy against Nelson is to hunt immediately his queen and try to exchange her with yours (as I did in my game).

AuroranMelody

A very "beginner-friendly" way to beat Nelson is literally just to play Wayward Queen Attack yourself. 9 times out of 10, he'll blunder a central pawn and then offer a queen trade, and then you can just play a pawn up, and Nelson's lost the only piece he knows how to move.

Ofc, this doesn't help you practice defending against Wayward Queens in actual live games, so I'd recommend practicing your normal play until you can defeat him with your usual openings if you struggle with that kind of thing. Look for opportunites to pin his queen to his king with a bishop, sometimes, he'll give you those and then it's an easy gg.

cerebov
AuroranMelody wrote:

A very "beginner-friendly" way to beat Nelson is literally just to play Wayward Queen Attack yourself.

This is awful advice. The "wayward queen attack" is BAD. Really bad. Don't do this. Just focus on fast development and don't hang a piece.

Exchanging queens against Nelson is also a bad idea. Nelson's insane queen moves help you develop with tempo. He is actively trying to beat himself. Exchange queens and you take away his rope.

AuroranMelody

Hey, I said the disclaimer myself. This advice is just for beating the Nelson bot, and even then it's only if you have no other way of dealing with his queen. And even then, you should probably practice doing that. But hey, if you just want the feeling of beating him once, this can help beginners happy.png

Basilisk9
cerebov ha scritto:
AuroranMelody wrote:

A very "beginner-friendly" way to beat Nelson is literally just to play Wayward Queen Attack yourself.

This is awful advice. The "wayward queen attack" is BAD. Really bad. Don't do this. Just focus on fast development and don't hang a piece.

Exchanging queens against Nelson is also a bad idea. Nelson's insane queen moves help you develop with tempo. He is actively trying to beat himself. Exchange queens and you take away his rope.

 

If he was a real player you would be right but if you exchange queens the Nelson's power level really decreases a lot.

cerebov

For reference, here is my latest game against Nelson:

1. e4 e5 2. d4 Qh4 3. Nf3 (This is a sound pawn sacrifice, even the computer likes it a lot) Qxe4+ 4. Be2 exd4? (a serious mistake, opening the e-file against his own king, even though black's game was already difficult) 5. 0-0 d6?? 6. Re1 and black's queen is lost.

s_sajwani123
Basilisk9 wrote:

I believe that a good strategy against Nelson is to hunt immediately his queen and try to exchange her with yours (as I did in my game).

I don't think that it's a two step strategy. In my thoughts, it's 3 steps strategy:

1-) Avoid Nelson's Queen attacks by developing your pieces.

2-) Safely get rid of Nelson's Queen.

3-) Hunt Nelson's King down.

AuroranMelody

Nelson aside, against an actual person playing Wayward Queen I'd recommend just minding your own pieces and developing normally. Keep your king safe, make sure there's no forks or hanging pieces, and if you get a chance to win the queen, obviously take it. Otherwise, hunting the queen can be as hurtful to your own tempo as theirs. I'm pretty sure the occasional GM favoured Wayward Queen openings in the past, so it's not like there's an immediate punishing move to the opening- it's perfectly playable for White. Just play the game, and if they blunder their queen, bravo.

archaja
JuliusSneezer7 hat geschrieben:
And all the time this is going on, the King is sitting on his arse doing nothing ! 😤

That is the right of the King! Remember, all these former Kings buildet Cathedrals and made wars and made streets and all kind of staff without moving a single hand by themselfes. So they are. But wait till it comes to the end off all times.... the endgame!

Tomasaum

I hate nelson too he is so agressive with the queen but i learned how to punish him now i like to bully nelson because when i played first time against him he bullied me.

Tourganizer

i have a diamond membership but m not able to play with bots where will i find it ? pls help !