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marknatm

Is there any sort of history of the various wooden chess pieces that have been developed over the years in America?  Say maybe in a book or shown on a website?

Thanks!!

marknatm

I'm not interested in collecting per se.  I just ordered a Liberty set because of the history behind it and it struck me that I don't really know the history of chess set development in America.  Other countries that are notable are typically England, France, and Russian for obvious reasons.  It's unfortunate that we don't know much about piece evolution here other than say the typical plastic sets we probably all started with and knowledge of a couple of Drueke designs.

I know the Piatigorsky cup pieces were quite interesting, although rater large for today's tournament standards and that is about it.  I also find it interesting that most sets classified as "American" have an onion shaped mitre cap on the Bishops.  I'm assuming that concept came from the Pinney design.  It would also be interesting to know which came first - the Pinney or Lardy knights because they both look very similar to each other.

marknatm

Thanks for the info.  I've run across some of it during my research  It included some old pictures of Reshevsky and a young Bobby playing with these sets.

marknatm

It looks like the Windsor Pieces are also of an American origin and were used in the 1950's and 1960's.  Although, the knights seem to be somewhat small in comparison to the Bishops and Rooks.

cgrau
Get yourself a copy of Duncan Pohl’s Vintage American Chess Sets. It’s an excellent resource.
https://images.app.goo.gl/H4U64ejgticZD3P56
cgrau
https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-Chess-Sets-United-States/dp/1537640844
cgrau
danieljampz wrote:

I will too. @cgrau is there more in the book than in the online pdf that I originally posted? 

https://www.scribd.com/document/62620988/USA-Chess-Sets

I don't know. I don't have access to Scribd. IMHO, if you're interested in American chess sets, it's money very well spent. In my collection, I have vintage Drueke sets, Lisa Lane's Player's Choice set, several Pinneys, an original Windsor Castle set, and an original Steiner set, as used in the Piatigorsky sets. I also have House of Staunton's reproduction of the Mechanics Institute set, a real favorite. I used to have a Horn A-350 set and a Sterling Furniture set, but I sold those (to Duncan) some time ago.

chessroboto

THIS fits the bill.

All the other books I've read involve sets from outside the US, and those books are nowhere near as extensive as this. Thanks for recommendation!

forked_again
danieljampz wrote:

Here’s that other Horn set i mentioned I had w the bishop design we were discussing on a board I made w my dad when I was 13. I’m unsure the model #. It belongs to my 1 year old (he could name all the pieces at 13 mos!)




 

Interesting chessboard.  Did you make it?

forked_again
danieljampz wrote:
Yep - made it w my pops when I was a kid. It’s not great at being a chess board but I love it, naturally

I think it looks cool.  It would go really well with an antique or antique reproduction set.

cgrau

The Horn 450 no longer in my collection.

cgrau

The Horn A-62B in my collection.

cgrau

Sterling Furniture Company's American Made Chessmen. Sterling took over Drueke's dies for a few years around 1930 when Drueke temporarily was out of business. Now in the Duncan Pohl collection.

cgrau
endgame347 wrote:

haven't spoke to @cgrau for a while but remember this pic of some of your sets in May?

LOL. The middle shelf holds American sets.

cgrau
endgame347 wrote:
cgrau wrote:

The Horn A-62B in my collection.

 

 

 

beautiful set up Chuck - amazing board 

Many thanks!!

cgrau
danieljampz wrote:

That A-62B seems to be a bigger version of the set I have. How tall is the king? Is it weighted? 

It's 4.0" but unweighted.

KnightsForkCafe

Mechanics Institute set is one.

https://www.houseofstaunton.com/the-mechanics-institute-commemorative-chess-pieces-4-25-king.html

Drueke 820.40 is another

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-equipment/is-this-set-really-a-drueke

Here is where you can get a reproduction copy of the Drueke 820.40 if interested.

http://www.houseofchess.com/wood-chess-set-pieces-broad-base-staunton-king-size-3-3-4inch-rosewood-boxwood.html

KnightsForkCafe
danieljampz wrote:
Pretty sure That 820.40 was Indian-made...

May have been but Drueke brought it to America. Since it was designed by an American company. I consider it to be an American chess set. Even though it was maybe carved in India. Anyways I consider the 820.40 to be an American wooden chess set. Since it was designed by an American company and was marketed exclusively for the American market at the time. 

KnightsForkCafe
danieljampz wrote:

Fair enough - I had one once... I found it to be quite ugly  Anyone know the history behind that style knight? It pops up a lot....did it start w/ Drueke? 

I have the reproduction set and I like it. I just like the big bulb head of the King. Seems like the King has a huge ego because of his big head. The diamond shaped head of the Bishops are quite unique as well. I just like the different looks of the 820.40. However I do hate the smaller version of this set though. The Bishops and Queen do blend too much for me. 

marknatm

Thanks for all the input on this discussion.