darkunorthodox88 wrote:
Stylistically , i find it somewhat peculiar for a player who wants an alekhine game to want to enter conventional king pawn lines where white calls most of the shots in the position.
:'(
Alekhine's Defense = questionable?
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May 4, 2022
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#63
Does Alekhine even plays the Alekhine defense? No he doesn't. He only has twenty some games on record and his win rate is 45% while he has lots of games in Sicilian and his win rate is 75%.
So Alekhine doesn't even play Alekhine defense so why should you?
May 4, 2022
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#64
Taiwanese_Boyfriend wrote:
So Alekhine doesn't even play Alekhine defense so why should you?
Because it's a great opening? Besides, Alekhine is dead, so he can be excused for not playing the Alekhine defense.
Feb 2, 2023
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#65
TheOldReb wrote:
According to my database alekhine's defense scores better than 1...e5 and the french and caro kann. If its not sound then I guess they arent either? I played it myself for some years until my rating went over 1800 and I started facin experts and titled players with it. Only then did I have to change to something else as I was getting slaughtered with it.
With best play black is -.7 in most lines. But I've taken down experts and many 1900's with it. But with most chess openings best play is a draw right? Tim Sawyers Opening Playbook on the Alien one defense helped me with this opening. Its basically an encyclopedia of positions with 6-8 moves deep for each position.
Feb 2, 2023
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#66
marvellosity wrote:
What are the current fashionable Alekhine lines then? Stuff with ...g6 or something?
When white plays To hold onto the center and prevent black from developing his light squared bishop then black has little resources. Most of my games won in this opening is by pawn breaks and tactics.
Feb 2, 2023
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#67
swarminglocusts skrev:
marvellosity wrote:
What are the current fashionable Alekhine lines then? Stuff with ...g6 or something?
When white plays To hold onto the center and prevent black from developing his light squared bishop then black has little resources. Most of my games won in this opening is by pawn breaks and tactics.
I have been playing the Alekhine for 3 years and I do not agree with this statement. When white plays to hold on to a large center, that's when the Alekhine proves its worthiness. I find that the hardest variation to combat is the modern variation where white delays c4.
Here is a few variations that I want to talk about:
Thus, I think the Alekhine is completely playable, and more often than not, white does not know what he is doing and is finding himself in trouble or equality because of it. GM Nick de Firmian - "The game immediately loses any sense of symmetry or balance, which makes the opening a good choice for aggressive fighting players". This opening is good for players who do not aim for equality as black, but rather wants to fight for the advantage.
It is a bad defense, if the pawn were to be taken than the queen would take the horse and result in a +2 trade.
Feb 2, 2023
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#69
Bobery1 wrote:
It is a bad defense, if the pawn were to be taken than the queen would take the horse and result in a +2 trade.
what
Of course. Alekhine's defense is very questionable and is very Beta. Sigma Gigachads like me, only play e4 e5, because I am a gigachad.
Feb 2, 2023
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#71
Alekhine's is playable.
It's not dubious and can be played even in OTB classical matches.
The good part about the Alekhines is that not many people know it and that you can get some queenside play.
timeless_thoughts wrote:
The only thing I know is the mainline can someone post more lines which aren't the mainline
I like the Mokele Mbembe. It's weird, it's unconventional, it's objectively bad.
But the Alekhine's is so high in criticality that it's fairly easy for white to get an edge.
And with criticality I mean how easy it is to tip the balance, i.e. how tolerant making a move that's not the best one is. Engines don't show you this. Long story Short, to play the Alekhine's you have to know your theory.
It generally works up to, say level 1600-1700.
Feb 2, 2023
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#73
B1ZMARK wrote:
Bobery1 wrote:
It is a bad defense, if the pawn were to be taken than the queen would take the horse and result in a +2 trade.
what
I also have no idea what he is talking about, maybe he thinks that chess players like to give pawns for knights?
Feb 2, 2023
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#75
zone_chess wrote:
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It generally works up to, say level 1600-1700.
If you mean otb, yes. Online, no.
zone_chess wrote:
timeless_thoughts wrote:
The only thing I know is the mainline can someone post more lines which aren't the mainline
I like the Mokele Mbembe. It's weird, it's unconventional, it's objectively bad.
But the Alekhine's is so high in criticality that it's fairly easy for white to get an edge.
And with criticality I mean how easy it is to tip the balance, i.e. how tolerant making a move that's not the best one is. Engines don't show you this. Long story Short, to play the Alekhine's you have to know your theory.
It generally works up to, say level 1600-1700.
Mokele Mbembe Vavra Defense (1. e4 Nf6 2. e5 Ne4?? 3. d4 e6?! playing for 4. f3 Qh4+ 5. g3 Nxg3) used to be part of my repertoire. It led to a lot of short games, as if 4. f3 it's -3, anything else and it's +2. Suffice it to say I dropped that line immediately and went back to hoping for Four Pawns mainlines.
blueemu wrote:
4. f3
Oops, I'll fix that. Thanks!
i also find it quite unusual, for SHORT, of all people to dislike the extra space the Alekhine provides to white considering he is the strongest player to play 1.d4 nc6 with any regularity, including agaisnt kasparov.