The only possible way is to start off with 1...e6. GM Mihail Marin covers this approach in his modern-chess database. I don't know of any other resources off the top of my head because all my books cover the 7...Qe8 or the trendy 7...c6 line.
Avoiding the anti-Dutch lines while playing the Leningrad Dutch?
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14 hrs ago
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#3
There is, but like the classical and Stonewall, you have to allow a transposition to a KP opening, and in this case, and FAR WEAKER king pawn opening, which means 2.e4 will be FAR more frequent.
1.d4 g6 2.c4 (2.e4! forces you into the Modern Defense and you will get this FAR more often than you do the French Defense after 1.d4 e6 2.e4) f5 followed by 3...Nf6.
Most leningrad players will play 1...f5 and deal with the Anti-Dutch lines while Classical and Stonewall Dutch players, myself included, will often start 1...e6. The French is far more sound than the Modern.
Myself as White, I play 2.e4 against both 1...e6 and 1...g6. You play 1...f5, you'll get 2.Bg5 from me.
10 hrs ago
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#4
Curious (but a bit off topic): with anti-Dutch lines you mean Hopton and Staunton?
AtaChess68 wrote:
Curious (but a bit off topic): with anti-Dutch lines you mean Hopton and Staunton?
There are a few things white can play after 1. d4 f5, rather than letting black play the normal Dutch positions they want. This includes the Staunton Gambit (2. e4), and oddball lines like 2. g4, 2. Bg5, 2. h3, etc.
There are enough of them that I just don't want to have to spend time learning to play against them all, which is why I've always played e6 before f5 when playing the Classical Dutch.
AtaChess68 wrote:
But then you have to be prepared for the French right?
That is correct. After 1.d4 e6, black invites a French Defense transposition via 2.e4.
I play the French as my main defense against 1. e4, so I actually hope that happens. But it never really does.
6 hrs ago
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#9
Yup, got it.
(I don’t play the French so for me it’s better to learn to counter those anti Dutch lines).
(I don’t play the French so for me it’s better to learn to counter those anti Dutch lines).
I play the Classical Dutch a lot, and I always play e6 before f5, so I don't have to learn how to play against the anti-Dutch lines (Staunton Gambit, g4, etc). I've been curious to try out the Leningrad variation, but I'm just wondering if there's any move order to play it while still avoiding the anti-Dutch stuff that can come up if you play f5 on your first move.