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1aardvark

Ok ✅ 

DasBurner

This is just a standard Vienna position? Except you never played the thematic move f4

DasBurner

btw nd4 wins for black in that position instead of nb4 which does nothing

 

ThrillerFan

#4

I admit Black is better and Qe2 was not a good move, but is Black really winning?  Can White not admit his mistake and go back to d1 with the Queen?

I do not play this opening from either side (Italian, not Vienna, with White and ...e6 against e4 as Black) and so I could be missing a combination, but I do not see it.

ApolL26

I used to play this, but with Nc3 first. The idea is just to go d3-f4. It's not a new opening

DrSpudnik

There are books on the Bishop's Opening and Vienna.

Burgermaniac

this is just part of the Vienna in a mixed up move order

DrSpudnik

Yes, it's like the way I back into a Queen's Gambit Declined by 1....e6 and 2....Nf6 to foreclose many alternatives and make White commit to one thing or the other.  It's just not a separate opening from what we've all seen already for a couple centuries.

DasBurner
ThrillerFan wrote:

#4

I admit Black is better and Qe2 was not a good move, but is Black really winning?  Can White not admit his mistake and go back to d1 with the Queen?

I do not play this opening from either side (Italian, not Vienna, with White and ...e6 against e4 as Black) and so I could be missing a combination, but I do not see it.

black can just take on f3 and then play c6 b5 a5/b4 and white is dead. I used to play Vienna and blundered like this a few times, not to mention that playing qd1, while being the best move, is just a free tempo for black

of course, not a forced loss for 1200s or whatever the OP's rating was before he deleted his post but white's position is just horrible regardless

(sorry if my grammar is bad I'm writing this at 1 am)

DasBurner

a sample line @ThrillerFan

white has two sets of doubled pawns, can't really castle either way, and black doesn't really have any worries

HalfSicilin
DrSpudnik wrote:

Yes, it's like the way I back into a Queen's Gambit Declined by 1....e6 and 2....Nf6 to foreclose many alternatives and make White commit to one thing or the other.  It's just not a separate opening from what we've all seen already for a couple centuries.

I/m not that old  cry

Marcoscab0415

I absolutely discovered a new opening it's a Black version of the Evans Gambit and it's more venomous than white if it hits.

Mazetoskylo
Marcoscab0415 wrote:

I absolutely discovered a new opening it's a Black version of the Evans Gambit and it's more venomous than white if it hits.

What's against 7.Nxe5 (other than resigning)?

And... this "Black version of the Evans Gambit" has been played a few times before, which is natural: You are not the only beginner on planet Earth.