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King's Pawn Opening: King's Head Opening
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Nov 15, 2018
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#123
Potato50012 wrote:
The tournament, vote chess, and team match may further the theory even more! (More people's experiences to draw from.)
Yes. 
23/32 players in the tournament, it will start very soon. 
Awesome! And it's daily too (at least, from what I saw), so I can join in. (Recent internet trouble precludes live.)
Played a little miniature featuring the Italian Variation:
Hello guys! Quite an awesome thread, i played f3 by accident and that sent me down a rabbit hole. After all this, what is considered white's best response to 1. e4 e5 2. f3 Nf6 3. h4 Nxe4 5. ?
Thanks!
I just did a full rundown of your options for if you had played h3, which is a horribly losing position, but has some glimmers of light. (I had misread what you posted and thought you played h3.)
h4, however, is MUCH better, as you don't have to worry about mate in three or losing your rook. In fact, you appear to have the advantage here.
Really what you need to do is take the knight, it seems so obvious that it must be wrong, but it is the right call. Anything else squanders the advantage you have here, and brings us back to a position where you are only slightly better off than if you had played h3.
From there, it really depends on what your opponent plays. If I was playing black, I would most likely play d6, Nc6, or Be7.
Here are my final recommendations:
4. fxe4 d6 5. Bc4 (stifles their prospects for an attack in the middle and allows you to threaten mate)
4. fxe4 Be7 5. Nf3 (adds a crucial second defender on the h pawn while also threatening the center)
4. fxe4 Nc6 5. Bc4 (same as the first line)
Bear in mind that I'm not the highest rated player around, but I also don't usually take much time to consider my moves, these were considered very carefully. They could be wrong, but with those options, I think you stand a fair chance of winning.
Looking at your rating and your opponent's rating, you shouldn't have too hard a time with this, unless they find this forum, too. They may know openings, but they may not know why the openings are good. If that's the case, the obscurity of the opening will give you an edge.
Mar 10, 2021
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#130
daniel_stefanov wrote:
Hello guys! Quite an awesome thread, i played f3 by accident and that sent me down a rabbit hole. After all this, what is considered white's best response to 1. e4 e5 2. f3 Nf6 3. h4 Nxe4 5. ?
Thanks!
In this position, 3...Nxe4 is totally losing for black, cuz the white pawn on h4 is protected by the rook. Just play 4. fxe4, and game over. 
Potato50012 wrote:
my137thaccount wrote:
MickinMD wrote:
my137thaccount wrote:
MickinMD wrote:
Potato50012 wrote:
This is my favorite opening to play, and seems very good when I play OTB. The fact that it does not work often when I use it on Chess.com may be attributed to the fact that I am worse online than OTB.
It is 1. e4 e5 2. f3
This allows me to develop my pawn structure (the method of playing that I do best) and to harass pieces moved on the king side of the board.
What do you all think of it?
2 f3 is bad because:
1. It takes away your King's Knight's usually excellent opening position.
2. It exposes your King to a Qh4+ attack.
3. It violates the principle of developing pieces before Pawns
4. It's wimpy to do as White - if you want to challenge Black in the opening, f4 can be a powerful move but not f3.
These are reasonable points, but aren't the real reason why 2.f3 is bad. For example, 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.f3 is good, and so is 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.f3. The key point here is that the DSB is able to come to e3 where it can give shelter to the king, while this is not the case after 1.e4 e5 2.f3. The other point is that f3 is usually part of a central expansion strategy, while after 1.e4 e5, it is just pointless and weakening.
Your examples are all 3 f3, NOT 2 f3. 2 f3 is bad!
Yup
Thank you for the info, I may take your advice. (OTB, I need some time to learn on a real chessboard, some of my losing problem is that I cannot visualise moves well on a computer, whereas on a real board I can do so well.
I think it's fine to play this if it's working at your level. But as you start playing better players you will realize that objectively there are better moves and you will have to adjust your game.
JackRoach wrote:
2f3 is not a good move
WOW!! REALLY??
It's almost like we knew that or something, but decided to talk about it anyway.
Apr 20, 2021
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#135
Potato50012 wrote:
JackRoach wrote:
2f3 is not a good move
WOW!! REALLY??
It's almost like we knew that or something, but decided to talk about it anyway.
It's a brilliant move.
Saw the opening for the first time today. Checkmated in in 9 moves.
[Event "Live Chess"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2021.07.15"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Dragonborn2018"]
[Black "MrDogFace"]
[Result "0-1"]
[CurrentPosition "r2qk2r/pbpp2pp/1p3n2/2b1pP2/2P5/2N2nP1/PP1PN2P/R1BQKB1R w KQkq -"]
[Timezone "UTC"]
[ECO "C20"]
[ECOUrl "https://www.chess.com/openings/Kings-Pawn-Opening-Kings-Head-Opening"]
[UTCDate "2021.07.15"]
[UTCTime "02:38:42"]
[WhiteElo "624"]
[BlackElo "588"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
[Termination "MrDogFace won by checkmate"]
[StartTime "02:38:42"]
[EndDate "2021.07.15"]
[EndTime "02:44:47"]
[Link "https://www.chess.com/game/live/20055601513"]
1. e4 e5 2. f3 {INACCURACY (-0.83)} ({(+0.22) The best move was} 2. Nf3 Nc6 3.
Bb5 Nf6 4. d3 Bc5 5. Bxc6 dxc6 6. O-O Bd6 7. Re1 Be6 8. b3 O-O 9. a4 Nd7 10. Ng5
Nc5 11. Na3 f6 12. Nxe6 Nxe6 13. Nc4 Bb4 14. Bd2 Bxd2 15. Qxd2 Qe8 16. Ne3 a6
17. Qc3 Rb8 18. b4 Rd8 19. Qb3 Qe7) 2... f5 3. g3 {INACCURACY (-1.12)} ({(-0.07)
The best move was} 3. d4 exd4 4. Qxd4 Nc6 5. Qc4 fxe4 6. fxe4 Bb4+ 7. Bd2 Qh4+
8. g3 Qe7 9. Nc3 Nf6 10. O-O-O d6 11. Bg2 Bd7 12. Nf3 O-O-O 13. Bg5 Rhe8 14. Nd5
Qxe4 15. Qxe4) 3... Nf6 4. exf5 Bc5 5. c4? ∓ {MISTAKE (-3.12)} ({(-0.68) The
best move was} 5. d4 exd4 6. Bd3 O-O 7. Nh3 Re8+ 8. Kf2 d5 9. Bf4 Nc6 10. Na3 h5
11. Kg2 Ne5 12. Bxe5 Rxe5 13. Nb5 Bxf5) 5... Nc6 6. Nc3 b6 {INACCURACY (-1.72)}
({(-2.81) The best move was} 6... d5 7. cxd5 Nxd5 8. Qa4 Bxg1 9. Rxg1 Bxf5 10.
Bb5 Ne7 11. b3 a6 12. Be2 b5 13. Qh4 Qd6 14. Kf1 O-O 15. Kg2 Nd4 16. Ne4) 7. Nd5
Bb7 8. Nc3 {INACCURACY (-3.40)} ({(-1.91) The best move was} 8. Bd3 Nxd5 9. cxd5
Nd4 10. b4 Bxb4 11. Be4 Rf8 12. a3 Bd6 13. Bb2 Nxf5 14. Ne2 Qf6 15. f4 O-O-O 16.
Rc1 Nd4 17. Nxd4 exd4 18. O-O) 8... Nd4 9. Nge2?? {BLUNDER (♚ Mate in 1)}
({(-3.42) The best move was} 9. Bg2 O-O 10. Nh3 Nxf5 11. b4 Bd4 12. Bb2 Qe7 13.
Qc2 Nd6 14. Qb3 c5 15. bxc5 bxc5 16. Ng5 Bc6 17. O-O-O a5 18. Nge4 Nfxe4) 9...
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Oct 7, 2021
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#137
I propose a variation that I played recently… I dub it the King’s Head Opening: Trinity Variation. It plays 1. e4 e5 2. f3 d6 3. Nc3 Be6 4. d4 exd4 5. Qxd4 Nc6 6. Qf2 (ev: -0.5)
Yigor wrote:
I can propose an awesome continuation. Let's call it Fried King's Head :
I played ur move!
@Lastrank Done.