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J_Kunal
what do u think
EnCrossiantIsBrilliant

italian

ThrillerFan

Neither!

Chuck639

Italian food is way better hands down!

EnCrossiantIsBrilliant
Chuck639 wrote:

Italian food is way better hands down!

thats true

OskarJ2012

None Scotch gambit is best by test

Lent_Barsen

Very apples versus oranges.

Italian: ancient with a long history of venerable games. It was historically a first tier opening with that status lasting until maybe a decade (or two) into the 20th century. Has seen a bit of a revival in recent decades.

London: originally an amateur opening designed just to get a game. Now is a GM opening designed just to get a game.

SeanTheSheep021

I like Italian opening

pizzaaaaa 🍕

RussBell

It's a matter of personal preference. Both are good. Neither one would be a bad choice. Both openings can be played for the rest of your chess career.....and are played even at the highest levels...

Introduction To The London System & Jobava London System

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/the-london-system

Introduction to The Italian Game, Evans Gambit & Two Knights Defense

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/introduction-to-the-italian-game

more articles on openings in my blog....

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell

EnCrossiantIsBrilliant

help what do I do this one person at my club I play at plays f5 against everything

EnCrossiantIsBrilliant

my other main opening for white

RussBell

@AMagirlcom -

As a 1.e4 player as White, to get some ideas against an early ...f5 by Black check out the Rousseau Gambit...

https://www.365chess.com/eco/C50_Rousseau_gambit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-3dsGcJeaQ

and Ponziani Counter Gambit...

https://www.365chess.com/eco/C44_Ponziani_counter-gambit

The Ponziani is a great opening for improving chess amateurs.....if both GM Eric Rosen and GM Daniel Naroditsky recommend it, it has to be good...

https://www.365chess.com/chess-openings/Ponziani-Opening

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ponziani+opening+eric+rosen

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ponziani+opening+daniel+naroditsky

IM Levy Rozman (GothamChess) gushes over the Ponziani....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TemLSMDKSMw

You might also check out the Bishop's Opening which is a very flexible opening for White...

https://www.365chess.com/eco/C23_Bishop's_opening

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bishop%27s+opening

for example, against an early ...f5 by Black...

https://www.365chess.com/eco/C23_Bishop's_opening_Calabrese_counter-gambit

Note that the Rousseau Gambit position could conceivably be reached via the Bishop's Opening move order...

https://www.365chess.com/opening.php?m=7&n=10523&ms=e4.e5.Bc4.Nc6.Nf3.f5#search_block_opening_explorer

Introduction to the Bishop's Opening...

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/introduction-to-the-bishops-opening

Lent_Barsen
AMagirlcom wrote:

help what do I do this one person at my club I play at plays f5 against everything

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 f5 is called the Rousseau Gambit.

In the position you showed I would probably play 4. d3, with something similar to a King's Gambit Declined reversed.

Many players think their opponent plays stuff like 3...f5 and they should just be able to blow them off the board, but that's not how chess works. 3...f5 is a little dubious, but I don't think it's refuted.

EnCrossiantIsBrilliant
Lent_Barsen wrote:
AMagirlcom wrote:

help what do I do this one person at my club I play at plays f5 against everything

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 f5 is called the Rousseau Gambit.

In the position you showed I would probably play 4. d3, with something similar to a King's Gambit Declined reversed.

Many players think their opponent plays stuff like 3...f5 and they should just be able to blow them off the board, but that's not how chess works. 3...f5 is a little dubious, but I don't think it's refuted.

I played d3, and my king got attacked and I got mated.

Lent_Barsen
AMagirlcom wrote:

I played d3, and my king got attacked and I got mated.

Can you post the game?

EnCrossiantIsBrilliant
Lent_Barsen wrote:
AMagirlcom wrote:

I played d3, and my king got attacked and I got mated.

Can you post the game?

It was OTB blitz but I will try

EnCrossiantIsBrilliant

Yeah I don't remember

RussBell

Acquire a good grasp of chess opening principles....

Chess Openings Resources for Beginners and Beyond…

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/openings-resources-for-beginners-and-beyond

Lent_Barsen
AMagirlcom wrote:

my other main opening for white

After 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. c3 f5 I would definitely play 4. d4.

Ironguard5s

ITALIAN seems cooler but London is more annoying and that is why it is such a good opening - u annoy the heck out of your opponents with slow play.

So my choice is: Italondon