Please give me your tips for the FRIED LIVER ATTACK

According to some advice I have seen, Nxf7 can work, but other people say definitely play Bxf7 so you can get the check and make black deal with that first>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b15KTiSBZVA&t=58s

The other difficult stage of the Fried Liver is where they half accept but then play b5. This is actually a very cunning counter by black!

Against b5 is simple okay bf1!! The b5 will always be hit

Against traxler just shy

Study either nxf7 kf1 or a bxf7+ line with kf1

I like the Ulvestad variation with b5, I have also played the Traxler counter, learn it and know it well. It can be a dangerous weapon in quick time controls, but is dodgy. The classical variation with Na5 works fine, but also simply playing Bc5 instead of Nf6 works just fine.

The Traxler is busted.

Its not even worth learning how to play Traxler.

With Best play Black loses, White 5th move is winning.

5. Nxf7 or 5. Bxf7

Taking the f7 pawn with Knight is more tricky and white could mess up if they don’t know the right continuation.

However, if white does know, black is lost.

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Personally, I like taking with the Bishop because I don’t like wasting Brain power trying to remember the Knight line.

The Bishop line is very brain dead sort of line.

- You take f7 pawn

- You ruin enemy King castling

- You retreat all the way back to b3

Than you play normally being up 1 pawn with Black having a King issue.

In other chess lines, players play normal and they are not up 1 pawn and their opponent King is safe.

In this chess line, your playing normal with the benefit of being up 1 pawn + unsafe enemy King.

You are literally winning and you didn’t even have to do anything.

I agree it is a bust, but in fast time controls it is easy to make a mistake if you drill it many times. You won’t be the one making those mistakes. I have won many OTB blitz games with it in the past. But without doubt. The classical variation, the Ulvestad variation and 3… Bc5 to prevent the two knights attack are all better. Strictly speaking it is only the fried liver if black takes the pawn on d5 with the knight.

3 Bc5? In the Italian Variation only, right?

Because Bc5 in the other line with Nf6 is losing

Wow, You Play The Fried Liver. You are a brave person. Personalny, I follow dr. Tarrash's tip and play 4.d4. It gives a clearer and safer attack. After 4. Ng4 it is Black who gets initiative, and does it in many possibile ways. But worse is to came. What if Black decides that there is no need to part with a perfectly good pawn, and plays 5...Nxd5! ?. Either he is a noob, and You would win with something safer anyway or he knows what he is doing and has prepared a formidable defence. You see I have a great, extremally detailed theory article on Fried Liver from a chess magazinie. I seriously pondered whether to learn it in a rote fashion and keep crushing guillable White players. And I am for sure not the only one who had such and idea. So those who play Nxd4 are to be really feared, unless they are clueless beginers.

Yes of course I meant e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 Bc4 Bc5 instead of 3Nf6 allowing the two knights attack.

I always like playing into Fried Liver.

Most people avoid it, but I play it anyway.

The Traxler Counter Attack and the Fried Liver Attack are two different openings. One has nothing to do with the other.

The Traxler Counter-Attack is 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5?! Bc5??. The line is busted for Black after 5.Bxf7+ followed by 6.Bd5.

The Fried Liver Attack, which Black should NEVER ALLOW, is 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5?! d5 5.exd5 Nxd5?? 6.Nxf7. Instead, after 5...Na5!, White has no advantage and is actually ever so slightly worse. In theory it is equal, but Black is the only one with any real winning chances.

This is why White is better off playing 4.d3 or 4.d4 and why 4.Ng5 is actually slightly dubious

Thanks for the feedback!

Traxler is part of the "Knight attack" line so if they play it, it is a way of avoiding the Fried liver attack. But yeah, I get your point, they are not the same.

With the Na5 line, I am not sure I agree with you.

I would play Bd3 and the engine says 0.0 but I would be a pawn up.

There are also some very sneaky lines white can play involving h4 and Qh5

On the retreat I would play Bd3 instead of Be2.

It allows Knight to jump to e4 when it is kicked and many players with black wont want to trade their knight

The old school continuations use to be Be2 or Qf3.

The move Bd3 is fine move, but I’m not huge fan of it.