ok, amateurs love this kind of "trap" but what happens if white doesnt take on g4? Black's position seems a bit ridiculous to me...
Innocuous, irrelevant, etc...
If u want to make this trap good, then as usual, don't play it as a trap, play something strategically sound, like this :
ok, amateurs love this kind of "trap" but what happens if white doesnt take on g4? Black's position seems a bit ridiculous to me...
Innocuous, irrelevant, etc...
If u want to make this trap good, then as usual, don't play it as a trap, play something strategically sound, like this :
Thanks for the advice! I know that there is something to do for when the pawn doesn't take the knight. The Bishop instead of the Knight is a good way to play as well!
ok, amateurs love this kind of "trap" but what happens if white doesnt take on g4? Black's position seems a bit ridiculous to me...
Innocuous, irrelevant, etc...
If u want to make this trap good, then as usual, don't play it as a trap, play something strategically sound, like this :
Thanks for the advice! I know that there is something to do for when the pawn doesn't take the knight. The Bishop instead of the Knight is a good way to play as well!
But again, you can't go into the game pre-planning it. After 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6, what if White doesn't take on c6 and instead plays 4.Ba4? So you need to know the normal lines of the Ruy, you can't always assume a "trap" is playable.
If you are centering your skills around traps, you will always continue to suck and will never be able to beat players above maybe 1500. Usually by 1500, you know better than to fall for cheap shot traps that the 1100 clowns fall for!
Oh, and in response to your pic: Making Tyranny Great Again!
ok, amateurs love this kind of "trap" but what happens if white doesnt take on g4? Black's position seems a bit ridiculous to me...
Seems? It is ridiculous. What is the point 4...Ng4?
The vain hope that White will play h3 & hxg4?
The "Fishing Pole" falls in to same the catergory has the Muzio Polerio Gambit; everyone worth there salt (or with an ELO rating above that of a concrete block) can see the one dimension idea involved, can see taking the peice presents an attack free of charge, can see that it easily be avoided....but for some vacuous reason takes the peice anyway....
Check out my video on the fishing pole https://youtube.com/shorts/WGtU5ULdMpM?feature=share
I agree that bishop instead of knight makes it easier to transition into something else. I have the most success with this when it’s deeper in the game. It’s an easy tactic to set up in a caro-kann without investing more than the move it takes to bump the pawn to h5. At 1200-1400 it has been successful, but only when I am playing caro-kann and as a late-opening tactic
Please don't bump years old threads.
how do you even avoid it, though? If white doesn't take on g4, black has f6 and g5.
I don't think you need to avoid it, it rarely comes up in master games. Maybe you need to take a bit more care of your kingside and castling too early, but the fishing pole trap is generally a lame attack that doesn't do any good.
I really like if I can take the piece anyway and get away, since my opponent (usually low-rated) will think I "fell" for it, obviously you have to be incredibly careful if you're going to take it.
The final example is how you can expose the castled King.
There are many lines to this opening, show me down below! Now you may be able to play this against someone, and you may not. Either way, it's an interesting opening trap.