Santa Claus Opening/Italian Variation/Reversed Grinch/Super Grinch Variation/Queen Dance Variation
ANALYSIS!
With best plays, looks like it is better for black.
The Santa Claus Opening
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Feb 19, 2016
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#243
Santa Claus Opening/Italian Variation/Reversed Grinch/Super Grinch Variation/Timid Queen
Feb 19, 2016
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#244
Santa Claus Opening/Italian Variation/Reversed Grinch/Super Grinch/Take My Pawn Gambit
Santa Claus Opening/Italian Variation/Improved Grinch
Santa Claus Opening/Italian Santa Variation/Improved Grinch/Black Death Variation
Santa Claus Opening/Italian Santa Variation/Improved Grinch/Runny Nose Variation
After the moves 1.e4 e5 2.b3 Bc5
I do not think we should call that line the Italian Variation.
I think the position is more similar to the Bishop Opening 1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 .
I would call the following line 1.e4 e5 2.b3 Bc5 as The Reverse Bishop Opening.
I think we covered the Italian Variation in the Grinch defense as a sub- variation
1.e4 e5 2.b3 Nf6 3.Nc3
3...Bc5 would be like the Reverse Italian Game
3...Bb4 would be like the Reverse Spanish Game
It would be kool if there was a way to make like a miniature database with these moves & names on them.
Feb 19, 2016
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#247
The way we have things are pretty disorganized. Tell you what, I'll make a chessbase file for myself and I will put all the lines there. It'll take some work, but I will then be able to post the PGNs.
Robert_New_Alekhine wrote:
The way we have things are pretty disorganized. Tell you what, I'll make a chessbase file for myself and I will put all the lines there. It'll take some work, but I will then be able to post the PGNs.
Actually I was thinking of putting all the lines in 1 diagram.
However, I was thinking it would probably look kooler as like a chess explorer tree.
Feb 19, 2016
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#249
X_PLAYER_J_X, I've put in the first 2 pages posted in this forum.
Hope you like it.
Very nice Robert!
I have a diagram which has the updated names.
I have not added any games which I probably should make another diagram with games.
Oh yeah lets not forget about the Santa Claus Group!
We got tons of analysis in there as well which didn't even get mentioned yet lol.
Yeah a lot of stuff for sure.
Going over a line no one has even heard of.
Well it is interesting for sure.
Everyone has added there own spinn on things.
Feb 19, 2016
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#252
Yes, first I enter everything from the forum, then everything from the group.
Feb 19, 2016
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#254
Following Robert_New_Alekhine's theory..
Santa Claus Opening/symmetrical Variation
Santa Claus Opening/symmetrical Variation/Bishop's fianchetto attack!
Santa Claus Opening/symmetrical Variation/Bishop's fianchetto attack/Italian Counterattack
White prevents Qh4 by playing g3
Harish73 wrote:
Following Robert_New_Alekhine's theory..
Santa Claus Opening/Bad Santa Defense/symmetrical Variation
Santa Claus Opening/symmetrical Variation/Bishop's fianchetto attack!
Santa Claus Opening/symmetrical Variation/Bishop's fianchetto attack/Italian Counterattack
White prevents Qh4 by playing g3
These are all the lines I can remember.
Santa Opening, Grinch Defense(1.e4 e5 2.b3 Nf6)
Santa Opening, Sleigh Defense(e4 e5 b3 Nc6)
Santa Defense, North Pole Attack(e4 e5 b3 d5)
Santa Opening, Bad Santa Defense(e4 e5 b3 b6)
Santa Opening, Reverse Bishop Opening(e4 e5 b3 Bc5)
Santa Opening, Royal Grinch Defense(e4 e5 b3 Qh4)
Santa Opening, Elven Defense(e4 e5 b3 Nc6 Bb2 g6)
Santa Defense, Accelerated Elf Defense(e4 e5 b3 g6)
Santa Opening, Christmas Tree Defense(e4 e5 b3 Nc6 Bb2 Nf6 Nc3 Bb4)
Santa Opening, White Christmas Tree Defense(e4 e5 b3 Nc6 Bb2 Nf6 Nc3 Bb4 d3)
Santa Opening, Christmas Tree Gambit(e4 e5 b3 Nc6 Bb2 Nf6 Nc3 Bb4 Nf3)
Reindeer Attack(e4 e5 b3 Nc6 Nf3)
Present Defense(e4 e5 b3 c6)
Snowman Defense(e4 e5 b3 Be7)
Santa Opening, Caroling Counter-Gambit(e4 e5 b3 f5)
I have only included sidelines for Grinch Defense and Tree Defense, those being my two preferred variations.
Olé!
@finn416
Everything you said is correct except for 1 line.
1.e4 e5 2.b3 d5
The line name got changed!
It was first the North Pole Attack.
However, people didn't seem to like the name.
Instead it got changed to Christmas Stocking-Counter Attack.
We have created a total of 22 different variations!
Those are the ones I have counted as of yet.
I still have to go through the group forums.
People did some analysis of specific variations on there.
Still have to figure out what the mainline should be and what the side lines should be for those.
However, yeah 22 is the count as of yet.
Santat Claus Opening/Italian Variation/Reversed Grinch
Santa Claus Opening/Italian Variation/The Reversed Grinch/Grinch Deffered
Santa Claus Opening/Italian Variation/Reversed Grinch/Calm Pawn Defense
Santa Claus Opening/Italian Variation/Reversed Grinch/Double Grinch Variation
Santa Claus Opening/Italian Variation/Reversed Grinch/Super Grinch Variation
Santa Claus Opening/Italian Variation/Reversed Grinch/Super Grinch Variation/Queen Dance Variation
I would especially want to bring your attention to the last one. The position is very complex, but I believe it should be better for white.