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What is Black’s sharpest response to 1. d4?

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Optimissed
HolographWars wrote:

The Englund Gambit is the sharpest but is quite terrible.

The Modern Benoni is also pretty terrible if your opponent knows what's going on.

The Dutch Defense is very sharp and playable at the same time. A lot of my tournament games have ended within 30 moves with mixed results. Great opening if you are tired of Londons/Catalans/etc. I used to play this more often, but I've become more aware of my limitations as time passed and I grew older.

Re the Modern Benoni, don't I just know it. I play it in blitz and against weaker players. happy.png Against the modern lines with h3, yes it can be a pain in the neck. The reason is that because black is cramped, s/he'd love to get a pair of pieces off. Any pair except the g7 bishop but usually it's

7. ...Bg4 8. Be2 ... Bxf3

which 5 h3 can prevent. It's slower for white so black is reasonably ok but just doesn't get the sharper lines which are desired.

I would call the Dutch "rather stodgy" and so I play the Staunton Gambit.

sndeww
Optimissed wrote:
HolographWars wrote:

The Englund Gambit is the sharpest but is quite terrible.

The Modern Benoni is also pretty terrible if your opponent knows what's going on.

The Dutch Defense is very sharp and playable at the same time. A lot of my tournament games have ended within 30 moves with mixed results. Great opening if you are tired of Londons/Catalans/etc. I used to play this more often, but I've become more aware of my limitations as time passed and I grew older.

Re the Modern Benoni, don't I just know it. I play it in blitz and against weaker players. Against the modern lines with h3, yes it can be a pain in the neck. The reason is that because black is cramped, s/he'd love to get a pair of pieces off. Any pair except the g7 bishop but usually it's

7. ...Bg4 8. Be2 ... Bxf3

which 5 h3 can prevent. It's slower for white so black is reasonably ok but just doesn't get the sharper lines which are desired.

I would call the Dutch "rather stodgy" and so I play the Staunton Gambit.

I don't really find the Modern benoni to be that bad.

The Modern lines with h3 + Bd3, are relatively tame after 9...b5 as Bxb5 is a draw offer and Nxb5 is more complicated, but black is doing fine tactically there as well. Bb5+ is the strongest line, of course, but you can try 9...Na6 (I think it's move 9) the point being after a few moves, when black kicks out the bishop with a6, it can't go back to f1 where it would usually like to be. The Bf4 lines are no good if you find 9...Na6 as well.

Optimissed
sndeww wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
HolographWars wrote:

The Englund Gambit is the sharpest but is quite terrible.

The Modern Benoni is also pretty terrible if your opponent knows what's going on.

The Dutch Defense is very sharp and playable at the same time. A lot of my tournament games have ended within 30 moves with mixed results. Great opening if you are tired of Londons/Catalans/etc. I used to play this more often, but I've become more aware of my limitations as time passed and I grew older.

Re the Modern Benoni, don't I just know it. I play it in blitz and against weaker players. Against the modern lines with h3, yes it can be a pain in the neck. The reason is that because black is cramped, s/he'd love to get a pair of pieces off. Any pair except the g7 bishop but usually it's

7. ...Bg4 8. Be2 ... Bxf3

which 5 h3 can prevent. It's slower for white so black is reasonably ok but just doesn't get the sharper lines which are desired.

I would call the Dutch "rather stodgy" and so I play the Staunton Gambit.

I don't really find the Modern benoni to be that bad.

The Modern lines with h3 + Bd3, are relatively tame after 9...b5 as Bxb5 is a draw offer and Nxb5 is more complicated, but black is doing fine tactically there as well. Bb5+ is the strongest line, of course, but you can try 9...Na6 (I think it's move 9) the point being after a few moves, when black kicks out the bishop with a6, it can't go back to f1 where it would usually like to be. The Bf4 lines are no good if you find 9...Na6 as well.

Thanks for that .... I always assumed it was ok for black but it's years or even decades since I looked at theory. These days I rely more on working out theory for myself and since I changed back to QGD against stronger players, there's been little need to swot up the theory for the MB. I'll rethink that because I really like MB formations in general.

Ethan_Brollier

I'll throw the Blumenfeld Countergambit into the conversation as well. It has some incredibly sharp and double-sided positions while remaining almost stable enough to consider being part of an actual opening repertoire.

ChubbyCatBuns
Optimissed wrote:
ChubbyCatBuns wrote:

Depends really at what you are looking; i think you can get sharp games from pretty much any system, but probably the ones that *tend* the most to be sharp are things like the Semi-Slav, King's indian, and Benoni, maaaybe the Grünfeld also. You also have some other options like the Benko, or some lines in the QGD (Vienna, Ragozin, Barmen, or probably just the exchange variation by istelf); however, i think these last one fall more in the category of "Dynamic" rather than "Sharp", but still (they can also get sharp too if allowed).

I was playing the exchange QGD with 0-0-0 for about a year but the problem with it is that it's overtly aggressive, which immediately dictates black's game-plan to him. He knows he has to defend on one side and attack on the other and so although I won some games and drew the others, it was harder going than I thought it should be, regarding the effort I had to use with white. I remember the last time I ever played it. Objectively, it was a superb game. Black successfully fended me off although I threw everything at the kingside but the result was that although it was even in material, I had a winning endgame because my king was already on the queenside. I remember feeling rather sorry for my opponent.

Yeah, i belive sometimes that can be annoying for the attacking side in some scenarios, as more often than not, the defending side tends to find themselves in a situation of only (logical) moves &/or plan...

I think the exchange QGD it's perhaps harder to play from the blackside, at least on the Nge2 f3 system, but still, it's a way to get a double edged game for black.

sndeww
Optimissed wrote:

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These days I rely more on working out theory for myself and since I changed back to QGD against stronger players, there's been little need to swot up the theory for the MB. I'll rethink that because I really like MB formations in general.

I also always liked benoni positions, but was always too lazy to do the homework needed on the relevant moves, so I just stuck with the benoni-lite positions from the czech or, when possible, the KID. Made the decision to go straight into the theory recently.

chessperson17071

if someone dares to play 1.d4 against you

you should respond with 1.h6

your opponent's position will spiral out of control if you push with black on the kingside

if they do not instantly resign by move 2 (cuz of the opening you played), you will just expand on the kingside and have a sharp, attacking game where white can not control your queenside because you played 1.h6, which *definitely* helps.

trust me 👍

sndeww

you do appear to be an authority on the matter

Compadre_J

Gruenfeld can be very Sharp lines

KID can be very Sharp as well

Chess92912

Horwitz defense