Why I love king's gambit

Its an attacking style opening where ur opponents can't rlly attack u back if u play it nicely. and I have 60% win chance with that opening. its also great for making brilliant moves bcs of the attacks u make. if they accept: 1.e4 e5 2. f4 xf4  4.Nf3 Nf6 5. Nc3 and u have perfect control over the center. if they decline: 1. e4 e5 2. f4 d6 3. Nf3 and u can build ur control on the center and push the d pawn. so play it nicely and it will reward u.

Sorry to disappoint you, but the king's Gambit is garbage, when black plays theory

@ShikshaWithPraveen Although I know I am taking my life in my hands here (even a casual look at your profile tells me that you are far, far better at this game than I ever was or could ever hope to be and are an Authority who I shudder to contradict), I would be interested to know what theoretical line or lines you have in mind. I have yet to buckle down and learn modern theory by rote so my timed games are largely based on a 1980s repertoire from an old obsession for the KG (I spent the entire summer of 1988 trying to make the Muzio work. I failed. Wasted time.), but I've tried to keep abreast surfing theoretical updates and have not found a discouraging refutation yet.

I love beating Kings Gambit players that love playing the Kings Gambit.

To bad no one plays Kings Gambit at my level.

All I see are Priests and Alcoholics!

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Incase, you didn’t get the above joke

(Ruy Lopez’s & Scotch’s are most common)

@Compadre_J Do you fancy a game sometime with 1. e4, e5; 2. f4 predicated as the opening moves? I see you're higher graded than me at Rapid and Blitz and a gnat's lower than me at Bullet. But I largely play these short games just for fun; and am coming back after a quarter-century layoff. So in timed games I do tend to be Blunder Central because of rusty sight-of-the-board. Maybe I could give you a decent game. I suspect it would have to be Daily given USA/UK timezone differences, the need for sleep, and the sheer difficulty of figuring out when we'd both be available (my job can make my schedule a gnat's unpredictable). No pressure, just a thought. I'd value the chance to test myself against a really clued-up KG-defeater and your post suggests you'd love the chance to put down a KG-lover.

if you get a game going let meknow, ill watch.

You are the one to blame for that.

Just raise your ratings by one thousand points, and try your luck against @lachesisQ

If you get a draw out of one hundred games, I guess you will be on "drinks on me" mode for at least one year.

"When black plays theory" then it's equal, pretty much like any other regular opening.

The one and only reason the King's gambit is much less fashionable than the Italian , Scotch or Ruy Lopez, is that Black has more ways to equalize against it.

Half- jokingly Nigel Short said that the King's Gambit is good because Black has more than one dozen ways to equalize, so there are chances he will be hesitant which one to pick, and lose time.

The line I play is the line Bobby Fischer claimed to be the refutation of the KG.

However, I don’t play his exact move order.

I play a trap.

Than if my opponent doesn’t fall for trap, I transpose into his line.

If White moves F pawn either by playing takes on e5 or be pushing past to f5, White falls for the trap and loses on the spot.

Most Good KG players will not fall for trap and play Knight to f3 at which point I take the f4 pawn and line has transpose into Fischer Defense.

The original move order to reach Fischer Defense is below:

Bobby called 3…d6 as high class waiting move.

I play the line a little different just because I have found playing 2…d6 can throw off players and some often fall for it.

Normally, I don’t play for traps, but I consider this a good trap which doesn’t really harm Black position if white doesn’t fall for it.

I'd usually play 3. Nf3 against 2..., d6 (I like the familiar) and agree that 2..., d6 is a nice way to throw White off balance. I'm toying with exploring 3. Nc3 more seriously than I have previously as a potential response. If Black doesn't play 3. exf4 at some point soonish it's a cramped King's Gambit Declined. If Black plays 3. exf4 then 4. Bc4 looks interesting to my mind. Black having committed to playing ..., d6 isn't the usual way to equality in, say, the Bishop's Gambit with ..., Qh4+ or the Cunningham Gambit; and it looks quite hard for Black to get back into Fischer country if White delays playing Nf3. For example, this looks reasonably promising:

I'm not claiming these are all "best" moves, but this follows the only game in the sort of line trying to head for a Black h6-g5-f4 pawn chain which I've located so far up to and including Black's seventh. I suspect that 8. Nge2 might be a modest improvement on that game (which White lost).

I have always thought 3. Nc3 was best move by White against the move order I play.

However, I have never had KG person play it.

I think they don’t play 3. Nc3 because the position starts to resemble the Vienna Gambit.

I think they try to keep the position in the Kings Gambit territory. Its only my logical guess though as I really don’t know why they don’t play 3.Nc3.

In the above position, Every KG player I have ever faced as continued with 3. Nf3

The above position on move 4 is only position where I have ever seen alternative moves played by white.

I have seen 2 different moves by white.

4. Bc4 or 4. d4

The move 3…d6 was high class waiting move designed to see how white continues so Black can respond accordingly.

If 4. Bc4, Than Black plays h6

If 4. d4, Than Black plays g5

I mean, sure. You earn an advantageous position, but Queen's Gambit does the same. Also, imo, King's Gambit is CRIMINALLY underrated.

Agreed. Us KG types can be very much creatures of habit. And, let's face it, if one doesn't have something which one likes to play against the Fischer Defence one really has no business with the White side of the King's Knight's Gambit in the first place. It's gonna crop up. Fairly frequently in my experience.

Come to think of it, I suspect that I only ever came to think that 3. Nc3 might be viable because I've dabbled with the Vienna from time to time.

I stopped playing KG in OTB games this summer after three years. I recorded a few easy wins. But if Black knew some variant, I had trouble equalizing the game. Plus, black has several options to equalize the game, and overall black chooses what to play in this opening. It is great opening for online playing but for play OTB games with players >2000 is not so good.

garbage opening, don't know why people still play it 
https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/120313203665?tab=review

Kings Gambit is my fav opening. I beat so many player beacause they put their queen out early on the Game.

I had a friend who told me to play different line.

I can’t remember the name of it, but he said it was killer line for Black.

This is how my friend played vs. KG.

I never was huge fan of it.

I preferred the Fischer Line.

Here is game I play against a lower rated player

I feel like White’s 1st - 7 moves are very common!

If White plays 4.Bc4, The following moves seem like very normal for White!

In the above game, I played the controversial move 7…Nd7. I don’t really play that move, but my opponent was lower level and I wanted to experiment.

It was interesting experiment.

The move I have been playing more regularly is 7…Ne7

I think engines prefer 7…Nf6, but I’m not huge fan of the e5 continuation which white could play against 7…Nf6. The engine thinks Black is fine, but I have always found it sort of scary.

I think master players prefer 7…Nc6, but I’m not huge fan of it because I feel like white previous move c3 makes the Knight on c6 pretty inactive. What is Knight attacking? c3 pawn defends d4 so I don’t understand why they play it.

You can sort of see why I wanted to try Nd7 as I might be able to play pivot to Nb6 making Knight active or something.

@TipsyTrickster Nothing I say here is intended to detract from your very nice win, but White doesn;t seem to have played optimally or even "to book" in the opening so I'm not really convinced the game is evidence that the opening itself is garbage...

4. Bc4 is currently thought rather dubious (both the Muzio and the Hanstein are under clouds; the Greco-Philidor, Ghulam Kassim, McDonnell, Lolli, and Salvio have been under big clouds for a century or so)

5. d4 and 6. 0-0 are likely sub-optimal because they head into a Hanstein.

8. Re1 is definitely not the best of ideas in the Hanstein position which had now arisen (the analysis bot likes 8. h4; 8. g3 is frequently seen, nineteenth century players tried other stuff in that position too)

9. h4 is too late to break the Black pawn chain and inconsistent with 8. Re1 (if you're planning to play on the e-file and have just taken your Rook off the f-file to do so, weakening your own King's position trying to begin to open the f-file seems...ahem...rather odd)

But you performed a really nice crush on a "King's Gambit gone sour" there. Nice one.

True, I guess people just always seem to play the kings gambit with the wrong idea of 'I will give black the extra pawn and space on the kingside, in exchange for control over the center' And this almost always leads to a dreadful position.

I don't play the kings gambit and haven't looked at the theory deeply, but to me only line that feels troublesome is 1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf 3. Nf3 g5 And then h4 immediately. If white delays with d4, black has time to play Bg7 and then h4 is met by h6 and again black will develop normally with a nice position.

Maybe other lines are playble as well, but all the pressure to prove something seems to be on white. If both sides make normal moves, blacks extra space on the kingside with the extra pawn is more then enough

There is no real point about 2...d6 over 2...exf4 3.Nf3 d6 (which is one of the best Black defences against the gambit).

Instead of 3.Nf3 white can play 3.Nc3 (3...exf4 4.Qf3!), 3.d3 or even 3.d4.