that might put u in the lead!
Gentleman's Game
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or even win u the game!!!
REMEMBER: if u resign, all hope is lost and there is no chance of winning, however, if u don't resign, then u still have a chance (however slim that is)
u might not believe it, but an opponent i versed (i won't say who, in case of public humiliation) was one move from checkmate, and I WAS TOO!, but he missed it, and i grabbed the chance.
motoshiev wrote:
I got hooked to chess when I was about 8-years old, playing with friends, brothers and uncles. I learned the discipline of chess at a fairly young age. I learned that to be a chess player is to be a gentleman. One must learn the courtesy of resigning if he or she knows that the position is hopeless. I know some of the players here who are into that unfortunate behavior, they can't accept to lose. Their tactics is to try to extol the game by pushing the vacation mode or they just max their every move. Well I see them as unprofessional and imature players. They should just play chinese checkers instead. But these are only few. Well, let's continue enjoying the game and just try to avoid those people.
It is not a "courtesy" to resign a lost position. I want my opponent to prove he can checkmate me.
Haha, motoshiev is definitely the most awesome 3 month old chess player ever... and has beaten me soundly twice.
Zerrogi, I noticed you put the word courtesy in quotes. At first, I thought that perhaps you were implying that courteous acts (i.e. an act that displays courtesy) are relative to the person, society, or group stating them. However, I then realized the ironic statement of refuting someone else's statement of courtesy after having implied that it is relative.
Having thoroughly confused myself, I went to the Merriam-Webster dictionary to look up the definition of courteous. The first one was something about manners - as if we didn't already know that. The second one was slightly more helpful:
"Courteous-adj: marked by respect for and consideration of others"
So, yes, by definition of the word, it is, in fact, "courteous" to resign a lost position - in consideration for your opponent. I, nor motoshiev, has implied that it is incorrect to do what you do and force your opponent to checkmate you. You are correct, if you're so beaten, your opponent should be able to checkmate you. While perhaps correct, it is discourteous.
Synonyms for discourteous - ask yourself if you would like your opponent to ever think of you as any of the words. Perhaps you don't care, that is understandable. It simply means you fit the bill more accurately than we'd like:
abrupt, bad-mannered, boorish, brusque, cavalier, cheeky*, churlish, contumelious, crude, crusty*, curt, disrespectful, flip, fresh, ill-bred, ill-mannered, impertinent, inaffable, indelicate, insolent, inurbane, oafish, offhand, rustic, sassy, smart-alecky, uncivil, uncouth, ungenteel, ungracious, unmannerly, unrefined.
GSUJhill wrote:
Haha, motoshiev is definitely the most awesome 3 month old chess player ever... and has beaten me soundly twice.
Zerrogi, I noticed you put the word courtesy in quotes. At first, I thought that perhaps you were implying that courteous acts (i.e. an act that displays courtesy) are relative to the person, society, or group stating them. However, I then realized the ironic statement of refuting someone else's statement of courtesy after having implied that it is relative.
Having thoroughly confused myself, I went to the Merriam-Webster dictionary to look up the definition of courteous. The first one was something about manners - as if we didn't already know that. The second one was slightly more helpful:
"Courteous-adj: marked by respect for and consideration of others"
So, yes, by definition of the word, it is, in fact, "courteous" to resign a lost position - in consideration for your opponent. I, nor motoshiev, has implied that it is incorrect to do what you do and force your opponent to checkmate you. You are correct, if you're so beaten, your opponent should be able to checkmate you. While perhaps correct, it is discourteous.
Synonyms for discourteous - ask yourself if you would like your opponent to ever think of you as any of the words. Perhaps you don't care, that is understandable. It simply means you fit the bill more accurately than we'd like:
abrupt, bad-mannered, boorish, brusque, cavalier, cheeky*, churlish, contumelious, crude, crusty*, curt, disrespectful, flip, fresh, ill-bred, ill-mannered, impertinent, inaffable, indelicate, insolent, inurbane, oafish, offhand, rustic, sassy, smart-alecky, uncivil, uncouth, ungenteel, ungracious, unmannerly, unrefined.
Take it easy, GSUJHill. I didn't realize how sensitive you were about this topic. I was not attacking motoshiev's personal character when I placed courteous in quotation marks; I was merely stating that by the way I was taught, it is neither courteous nor discourteous to want to continue a game, I just chose to phrase it in a witty manner, sorry if there is some confusion. I am in no way discourteous for wanting my opponent to checkmate me.
Your dictionary definition, while very helpful in finding several synonyms I can use for my Creative Writing project, doesn't really help to clarify anything here for me because, again, the way I was taught to show respect and consideration for my opponent varies from yours. In fact, the 5th board of the team I was a part of would not let me resign simply because he liked the idea of the "finishing blow". I didn't really care because it helped me brush up on my checkmate and endgame skills. I am not saying that the way you two were taught is in any way wrong, I'm just saying it's different than mine.
Last paragraph: tl;dr "cheeky"(thanks for the synonym) nonsense
You know what? I had this really awesomely aggressive and funny reply typed out that made fun of you for having a Creative Writing project with every word in quotes, you know, to make them witty- and I freaking hit the back button and I lost it because I'm an idiot and couldn't get it back That took me like.. freaking 10 minutes to type because I type like 2 words per day.
However, the gist of it was that I agree with you. Courtesy is relevant to the person. However, I do not feel your first post accurately conveyed such a statement. It seemed to convey a statement of fact. If I have misinterpreted your original statement, I sincerely apologize.
GSUJhill wrote:
You know what? I had this really awesomely aggressive and funny reply typed out that made fun of you for having a Creative Writing project with every word in quotes, you know, to make them witty- and I freaking hit the back button and I lost it because I'm an idiot and couldn't get it back That took me like.. freaking 10 minutes to type because I type like 2 words per day.
However, the gist of it was that I agree with you. Courtesy is relevant to the person. However, I do not feel your first post accurately conveyed such a statement. It seemed to convey a statement of fact. If I have misinterpreted your original statement, I sincerely apologize.
Ah, that's a shame. I probably would've lol'ed a little.
It's alright, I didn't realize my first post was so insulting to some. I just wanted to bring in a different view to the discussion.
Ha :D. Nono, it was my fault. I should've been more relaxed. At the very least, partially my fault. I used to be in the English department too! :)
I like your baby look gumpty :-)
ur opponent might make a serious blunder, or even a series of blunders