You could be right, AOD. But trolling 101 tells us that believability is key for roping in your fish. It's tricky with internet anonimity. Maybe he was an earnest, young fellow who made an account... I err on the side of dubious suspicion in these instances.
Is chess really worth it?
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Chess sucks; it's not worth it.
Rael, Why do you look for a mate in three when it's no possible?
YOU ask the wrong questions... You should ask what you attract into your life,
and why you are hyper focused on concepts that don't serve you...and worse off are incorrect and make your current life worse... In an attempt
to adress your post, and the low energy it's based on... I WOULD say one must interact with people and use thier mind on a basic level their entire life there for chess is a great cheap way to get out and do something... If you don't use your mind you will loose it... The black and white picure you create is small minded thinking that goes nowhere.. You don't adress the journey of life... in some feeble attempt to box the entire concept of life into a corner called old age... you make some slang like comment about people of age.. ( what do you know about being of age? 65 etc )
If I were you I would read some powerful books to heal your lack of views on how to create a harmony based life... ( i mean that with love ) The stucture
of my email is BRACEFUL because you are waisting your LIFE AWAY with lacking
based views of life... read the secret, study it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b1GKGWJbE8
I wish you luck in your life... regardless if you ever play chess again
Successful troll is successful.
queenofdeath can you explain to whom you are referring your new born wisdom?
Nov 29, 2008
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I think the real question here is what 'it' is in the question "Is chess worth it?"
For me chess is worth it becuase it challenges my identity and makes me a stronger person. I play chess because I'm incredibly bad at it; I struggle to maintain my 1200 rating. I am an emotional player who plays reactively and impatiently and therefore I lose a lot. Chess is worth it to me because in learning how to play chess well I'm leaning how to live life well. Learning not to play merely because I'm upset about a piece I lost, to be present to that emotion but not to succumb to it is a valuable life skill. Learning to look at every piece on the board before I play, both in my games and in the tactics trainer, is an excellent life skill. Learning that in order to achieve the goal of checkmate I have to knowingly and necessarily sacrifice something that's precious to me is a good life skill.
For all of these reasons chess is worth it; 'it' being the time I take out of the rest of my life in order to devote myself to the study and experience of winning, losing and most importantly, learning.
Yes, people will say insane things but that is fine..
I can clearly see that there are people, who really really enjoy chess, and Im sure it does make you stronger as far as mind, but can any human really tell me what really matters in human life?
TheAOD wrote:
I don't believe in God but if I did:
1) I would agknowledge that the things all people and animals do were because God desired it so.
2) If God desired it so, then it has meaning, God's meaning.
3) God gave us a multitude of ways in which to experience the world. Chess is one. Monopoly or Go Fish are others.
4) There is a limited time here because God wanted us to have a "time limit." This to me would probably suggest that he didn't want us to waste too much time. He wanted us to get to the activities that make the world worth living in. To me chess is one of these.
5) He may have also known that you need time to grow. Maybe chess is one way to grow. There are many benefits as others have stated.
6) Happiness is hormonal. A biological reaction to things we enjoy. If this is so then God willed it to be so. Therefor, anything that makes you happy is what God wanted.
There are obvious flaws with this and that is the reason I don't believe in God. Along with many other paradoxes associated with God.
I respond to this thread because I see myself at 14 in you Fyah. I'm not trying to belittle you or make you feel unwanted. This is a wholesome place where people come together to experience one another. It's a beautiful thing and it's free.
One man cannot save or change the world. It takes all of us to do good works in life and to be happy to do our share. Chess is here like any game to help you push your brain's limits. If it were not something else would take it's place. We need to play to grow.
All things that people do are relevant because they make the world what it is. You may feel the burden of life right now; you seem very nihilistic for someone with such intense faith. Nietzche once said (as best I can remember) "Consider the cattle as you pass them by. They know not what is meant by yesterday or today." Live in the moment kid. Meet lots of girls or boys and learn how to be a great friend and companion. Because, as it turns out, most of us spend the rest of our lives as companions and some of us never spent the time to learn how that might be done. I hope you learn to enjoy the simple things someday.
Anthony
It is people like this man, who just don't understand, you must know and understand God, you cannot take human things, and put them to his ways.
I have to agree with the people who assess the kid as a 14 year old. When I was 14 and realized I wasn't going to beat Fischer for the title, I suffered tremendous disillusionment, thinking "What's it all for, then?" It took me years to understand why this was. I say to you, Fyah, there is nothing in life worth external gratification. What do I mean by that? Just this: You will never satisfy everyone else on this planet. You will always have detractors in anything and everything you do. Does that make life pointless? Of course not. Decide for yourself what is relevant and what isn't relevant in life, then lead your life accordingly. If you think chess is pointless, I have to say that there are loads of people in finance, politics, and yes, religion, who completely agree with you. If you feel that way, stop playing chess. Try music, or something else to sooth the pain you are feeling now. Years later, you may come back to chess--or not. And you are right--it really doesn't matter if you play chess or not. I am 51 years old, playing chess since I was a child. I have survived the streets of New York City, served in the Navy during Desert Storm, and survived a head-on car accident that killed the other driver. Chess got me through all of it. The beauty of a Paul Morphy brilliancy is something to live for. I can no more understand your rejection of chess than you can understand the deep love I have for it. But you are young, in search of answers. Think on this: Did the universe really exist before you were born? Will it really exist after you die? Understand that this is all here for you to experience--that's all. Nothing more. It's no deeper that that. You can be a Beethoven, or you can be a nobody, or you can be you--your choice. But you are only here to enjoy life--so enjoy it on your terms.
dashkee94 wrote:
I have to agree with the people who assess the kid as a 14 year old. When I was 14 and realized I wasn't going to beat Fischer for the title, I suffered tremendous disillusionment, thinking "What's it all for, then?" It took me years to understand why this was. I say to you, Fyah, there is nothing in life worth external gratification. What do I mean by that? Just this: You will never satisfy everyone else on this planet. You will always have detractors in anything and everything you do. Does that make life pointless? Of course not. Decide for yourself what is relevant and what isn't relevant in life, then lead your life accordingly. If you think chess is pointless, I have to say that there are loads of people in finance, politics, and yes, religion, who completely agree with you. If you feel that way, stop playing chess. Try music, or something else to sooth the pain you are feeling now. Years later, you may come back to chess--or not. And you are right--it really doesn't matter if you play chess or not. I am 51 years old, playing chess since I was a child. I have survived the streets of New York City, served in the Navy during Desert Storm, and survived a head-on car accident that killed the other driver. Chess got me through all of it. The beauty of a Paul Morphy brilliancy is something to live for. I can no more understand your rejection of chess than you can understand the deep love I have for it. But you are young, in search of answers. Think on this: Did the universe really exist before you were born? Will it really exist after you die? Understand that this is all here for you to experience--that's all. Nothing more. It's no deeper that that. You can be a Beethoven, or you can be a nobody, or you can be you--your choice. But you are only here to enjoy life--so enjoy it on your terms.
Do you people think that I am mad? Mad because I cant do everything in the world? Absolutely not!
dashkee94 yes time did start (for me) when I was born, and I should do what I want to do, but I like to do what is right. You said you would want to stay alive for.. Umm.. Paul Morphy's chess games?! Its a little absurd, this is what im talking about, there are things that just dont really matter and CHESS IS ONE OF THEM, im not saying you shouldn't play it, only that there are things that dont matter @ all, unless, you believe otherwise.
Im not trying to upset people, im not trying to make you stop playing chess, however, i do want to view your opinions on the subject, more posts please.
Hey hey!
But you have to understand, Fyah, Morphy's games aren't the ONLY thing to live for--just one of them. A beautiful woman is something to live for. Annie Haslam's singing is definitely something to live for, too. There are many non-material things that make life worth living.
You say you want to do what is right--define "right". What I'm saying is chess doesn't matter to you. OK. It does matter to me. You don't see that. Again, it's not your fault, you're just young. But you want to argue that chess is useless. Go ahead. You will never convince me of that. We all decide what is important for ourselves, and I decided years ago that chess is one of the things that makes life worth living. You have decided that this isn't for you. Fine. I really don't know what else you want or are trying to find here.
it's just to pass the time i think you take chess too srsly <.>
Nov 29, 2008
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#119
Did your father force you to play chess?
in a dress?
Its worth it... stop abusing your children!
*I hate that I have to right a disclaimer, but its a joke okay a joke...
Nov 29, 2008
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#120
hmmm, you probably put this topic up because you were depressed you lost a chess game or something, i could totally see that lol. But dude you're totally a hypocrite by playing chess yourself.Don't go posting things like how chess isn't worth it and people should go do better things when you yourself play chess.
And what you said about stop wasting time, if you're so serious about wasting time, what are you doing complaining to us about chess? Go out and save a dying seal or something. If you're going to blame others for wasting time, stop wasting time yourself by talking nonsense about chess. Lead by example, not words.
nilesh and mrd55 are two who wished an early grave upon this initial poster, let alone several others who flamed him :( Scary to think such words are thrown around as nothing.