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jtt96

Zugzwang is a position in which you lose something no matter where you move.
Zugzwang free chess is chess in which you are allowed to pass your turn.
Zugzwang free chess should be included at Chess.com
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NOTE: this variant is recorded in D.B. Pritchard's Encyclopedia of Chess variants, second ed. I do not claim to have invented it.

Vance917

Automatic draw if both players pass consecutively?

jtt96

no, Thre Times repitition of position would ensure that the game woudl draw after three passes in a row.

MathBandit

A large majority of won endgames become dead draws this way. Just saying.

jtt96

I know, I didn't invent it.

Vance917

But if both players take a pass, then the game cannot continue.  Do they have a staring contest?  Arm wrestle?

slapshots101

stupid.

WindowsEnthusiast
jtt96 wrote:

Zugzwang is a position in which you lose something no matter where you move.
Zugzwang free chess is chess in which you are allowed to pass your turn.
Zugzwang free chess should be included at Chess.com
End of Topic

NOTE: this variant is recorded in D.B. Pritchard's Encyclopedia of Chess variants, second ed. I do not claim to have invented it.


Then many well-known won positions would become drawn. Virtually all endgames would become draws thus, except for a few like two rooks + king vs. king, two queens + king vs. king, rook and minor piece and king vs. king, and a few others. It would be pretty boring...

Moon_Knight

Zugzwang free chess. A good idea when your losing; but an awful idea when your winning.

jtt96

Think of it this way: If 90% of games are draws, then winning one game might be enough to catapult you to the lead in a tournement. It makes winning more rewarding. If you don't like it, you don't have to play it.

MathBandit

Think of it this way: At GM level, I'm not even sure if games are winnable under zugzwng-free chess. You're vastly underestimating the monumental effect of adding a 'pass' move. King+Pawn v King is never winning; I've done some playing around and I think a long King can even hold a draw vs 2 connected pawns+King.

MathBandit

If a Black King can step in front of a lone White pawn, the game is a dead draw.

Unless I'm mistaken in my quick analysis, if a Black King can step in front of connected White pawns, the game is drawn if White has no pieces or other pawns.

oinquarki

I think I barfed a little inside my mouth when I read this.

rnunesmagalhaes

It's a good variant if we figure a way to put laser beams in this.

Moon_Knight
rnunesmagalhaes wrote:

It's a good variant if we figure a way to put laser beams in this.


 laser beams and non-zugzwang games... Soon we'll be saying:

 "Wouldn't chess be more intense if you lit the board on fire?"

oinquarki

Whoa! That's brilliant!

ivandh

I demand that chess.com implement a flaming chessboard variant.

goldendog

I propose quitting that insane form of normal chess that makes violent brutes of us all.

Gentlemen (and ladies) I give you Wussy Chess:

See them cooperating instead of competing? Do ya? Feel better already?

Imagine...

Moon_Knight

lol How can those two tell their pieces apart?! Is there like a miniscule red dot on top of some of them that i can't see?!

heinzie

Supremacy chess?