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hardc0r3y

I'm newly into chess, and I hate watching coverage of matches and tournaments. It leaves a lot to be desired.

 

Sorry I'm going to rant here.

First off, can we stop analyzing the match on the same board as the live match? This is super confusing, especially in a blitz or rapid game or when little time is left. It's hard to focus on where the last move was and where and when the next move happens.

On that, can the time be bigger? Can we get a ding when a move has been played? It's never clear when a move actually happens.

For OTB games, can we have a constant over the board view?

Where can we analyze past tournament games?

justbefair

There are lots of different analysts and streamers covering events.  You can watch the ones you like better. 

I think most of them do use a live board and an analysis board.   Maybe you could mention the one you were watching.

I don't think you can get a ding because the whole system isn't set up to give a ding when a move is made.  It's not an option.

Chessgames.com is a great place to analyze past chess games.  Many of the greatest games have lengthy analysis pages. 

hardc0r3y

I was watching the current Chess.com championship. Mostly it's through this platform.

I would think if they can show a chess move on a digital board they can associate that move with an audible ding.

nehuito56F

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Iris_for_the_Pin

This drives me crazy, too

Iris_for_the_Pin

...oh, and I've posted elsewhere asking the same question the OP asks: where can we get the games after they've been played so we can study them?

Iris_for_the_Pin

Never mind re: the games to study - justbefair answered that question in another thread.

Chan_Fry

Yes, I often turn off chess coverage when it isn't clear whether the board on screen represents the actual game or the analyst's guessed moves. Also, the "anchors" (people talking) seem to think their audience is entirely made up of experts, with little allowance made for beginners or even intermediate players.

marcellothearcane
hardc0r3y wrote:

I was watching the current Chess.com championship. Mostly it's through this platform.

I would think if they can show a chess move on a digital board they can associate that move with an audible ding.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=npMM5s_VhAM

YorkshireCaviar
hardc0r3y wrote:

I'm newly into chess, and I hate watching coverage of matches and tournaments. It leaves a lot to be desired.

I'm also not keen on a lot of the coverage for different reasons, but then it is almost impossible for chess.com to please everyone. 

Prior to the chess.com / chess24 merger I really appreciated that there were two companies providing a different style of coverage for major tournaments.  I'm really not into the hyped up, American-style, esports coverage that chess.com are leaning towards so would often watch chess24's coverage of major tournaments.  Looking at the viewing numbers I realise that I was in the minority but I loved chess24's generally more subdued approach.  My concern is that, with the loss of chess24 as a standalone entity and it becoming part of the chess.com family, the viewers will no longer be given any choice for how they want to watch major tournaments and that chess.com will want all coverage to look and feel the same (i.e. 'on brand').

As I said, it's impossible to please everyone.  Personally I don't enjoy watching commentators such as FM James Canty III (please, ditch the sunglasses indoors - no one needs those and a baseball cap), IM Danny Rensch, IM Levy Rozman or GM Hikaru Nakamura, however I know that plenty of people do and they are hugely popular.  Chess.com is a global company though and their customer base covers the world, with an incredible variety of tastes and viewing habits.  With the loss of chess24 into the chess.com family there is no longer an alternative, so I would love to see chess.com give some thought to how they can provide for a broad base of chess fans and not take a 'one size fits all' approach.

The litmus test will be the upcoming World Chess Championship, something I am massively excited for.   It would be amazing if chess.com provided two streams; one on the chess.com Twitch/YouTube and one on the chess24 Twitch/YouTube.  It would be even more amazing if they thought about marketing these differently and allowing one of the streams (chess24?) to turn off the ever-present eval bar and let the GM commentators provide their own analysis.

 

N.B. I'm only posting this here as it's not obvious how else to provide feedback on chess.com's coverage of live tournaments.  If it's in the wrong area/forum, I apologise.  I'm also not trying to offend fans of Hikaru or anyone else, I am just trying to point out that we're all very different and no one is right or wrong in how they want to watch chess online.

Iris_for_the_Pin

I agree with this. While I can't comment on Chess24, having never been there, I would like a more subdued approach to chess coverage.  I would, in particular, like to *always* have a view of the live board that is not minuscule.  And the over-hyped behavior of some of the commentators (see list in above post) becomes wearing over time.  When I am in the mood for that kind of thing (sometimes I am) then I go watch Gotham Chess.

YorkshireCaviar

And it's almost like chess.com are trying to reinforce my point for me, but they've just announced that FM Canty is joining the commentators for the next round of the Champions Chess Tour coverage.  They could have gone with one of the established team who have previously done this and who the fans like (GM Simon Williams or IM Jovanka Houska, for example) but no... they've opted for Canty.  Why on earth are they promoting him so much at the moment?

This is making me start to think that they need a chesscomEU Twitch channel, in the same way that they have chesscomPL, chesscomFR, etc.  It could feature commentators that the US audience feel are too sedate but who are loved outside of the US.