If they don't resign and you checkmate them, you win. If not, their strategy was proven correct. So, nothing to complain about.
Evidently I violated the Good Sportsmanship policy for punishing those who refuse to resign.
Also, when I looked at your rapid stats, you lose to checkmate more than losing to resignation. Kind of ironic.
"This has turned into a thread about resigning"........ Funny how that works heh? 2 days ago, you posted if YOUR actions would suspend or ban your account. You may know how to play chess, but the forums and public opinion is a different animal. In the immortal words of Commander Riker......."Cheers".
When someone doesn't resign a hopelessly lost position, I like to mess with them by promoting everything (usually to horses) and making a bunch of joke moves before finally delivering checkmate. They are wasting time and dragging out the game by not resigning so I do the same to them.
I don't ever delay games or stall in any other situation. So I have to assume my doing that caused people to report me and made me get the message below. I'm wondering if this is something that is actually against the rules and they would suspend or ban my account for, if I keep doing it.
Dear 22289d
We’ve been receiving reports of stalling and disconnecting in your games. We want to remind you that this does violate our Good Sportsmanship policy.
We would ask you resign or play on in the future in order to make Chess.com a more friendly place to play!
Thank you,
Chess.com Support
[email protected]
And you are doing the same by playing "joke moves" and promoting to a bunch of knights. So what is the difference between what they are doing and what you are doing?
The difference is I'm doing it as a reaction, while they are doing it first.
Imagine someone spits on you, and you spit on them in response. And then you complain about people spitting on you. Would it be correct to say 'what's the difference, you spit on them?'
Also, when I looked at your rapid stats, you lose to checkmate more than losing to resignation. Kind of ironic.
Which means I lose by resigning which means I'm not a #NeverResign member which means I'm not going to be refusing to resign when all I have is my king and someone is promoting 5 pawns to knights. Which means there is actually nothing ironic about that.
When someone doesn't resign a hopelessly lost position, I like to mess with them by promoting everything (usually to horses) and making a bunch of joke moves before finally delivering checkmate. They are wasting time and dragging out the game by not resigning so I do the same to them.
I don't ever delay games or stall in any other situation. So I have to assume my doing that caused people to report me and made me get the message below. I'm wondering if this is something that is actually against the rules and they would suspend or ban my account for, if I keep doing it.
Dear 22289d
We’ve been receiving reports of stalling and disconnecting in your games. We want to remind you that this does violate our Good Sportsmanship policy.
We would ask you resign or play on in the future in order to make Chess.com a more friendly place to play!
Thank you,
Chess.com Support
[email protected]
And you are doing the same by playing "joke moves" and promoting to a bunch of knights. So what is the difference between what they are doing and what you are doing?
The difference is I'm doing it as a reaction, while they are doing it first.
Imagine someone spits on you, and you spit on them in response. And then you complain about people spitting on you. Would it be correct to say 'what's the difference, you spit on them?'
Oh I see...so here we are 2022, and we have reverted back to 7 year olds:
"Did you hit him?"
"Yea but he started it..."
You asked me what the difference was and I told you. Now you appear to be making some new argument. When you figure out what your point is, let me know.
Also, when I looked at your rapid stats, you lose to checkmate more than losing to resignation. Kind of ironic.
Which means I lose by resigning which means I'm not a #NeverResign member which means I'm not going to be refusing to resign when all I have is my king and someone is promoting 5 pawns to knights. Which means there is actually nothing ironic about that.
So it's all about getting a message?
It's funny how so many people put the focus on me wasting time by not checkmating fast enough, but not on the people wasting time by not resigning.
It's because YOU are the one complaining about people dragging out games with unnecessary moves. Then you do the same, "to teach them a lesson". It seems the lesson you are teaching is that such behavior is perfectly reasonable, even laudable.
When someone doesn't resign a hopelessly lost position, I like to mess with them by promoting everything (usually to horses) and making a bunch of joke moves before finally delivering checkmate. They are wasting time and dragging out the game by not resigning so I do the same to them.
I don't ever delay games or stall in any other situation. So I have to assume my doing that caused people to report me and made me get the message below. I'm wondering if this is something that is actually against the rules and they would suspend or ban my account for, if I keep doing it.
Dear 22289d
We’ve been receiving reports of stalling and disconnecting in your games. We want to remind you that this does violate our Good Sportsmanship policy.
We would ask you resign or play on in the future in order to make Chess.com a more friendly place to play!
Thank you,
Chess.com Support
[email protected]
And you are doing the same by playing "joke moves" and promoting to a bunch of knights. So what is the difference between what they are doing and what you are doing?
The difference is I'm doing it as a reaction, while they are doing it first.
Imagine someone spits on you, and you spit on them in response. And then you complain about people spitting on you. Would it be correct to say 'what's the difference, you spit on them?'
Oh I see...so here we are 2022, and we have reverted back to 7 year olds:
"Did you hit him?"
"Yea but he started it..."
You asked me what the difference was and I told you. Now you appear to be making some new argument. When you figure out what your point is, let me know.
Not only do I agree with you that there is a difference, I think the difference is that what you're doing is worse.
Now that you know that the vast majority of posters disagree with you (and with good reason), are you going to consider your bad sportsmanship behavior or have you learned something?
You could ask these "timewasters" if they need any help with their game if they seem to be overwhelmed by your better play? Could spark a good friendship?
When someone doesn't resign a hopelessly lost position, I like to mess with them by promoting everything (usually to horses) and making a bunch of joke moves before finally delivering checkmate. They are wasting time and dragging out the game by not resigning so I do the same to them.
I don't ever delay games or stall in any other situation. So I have to assume my doing that caused people to report me and made me get the message below. I'm wondering if this is something that is actually against the rules and they would suspend or ban my account for, if I keep doing it.
Dear 22289d
We’ve been receiving reports of stalling and disconnecting in your games. We want to remind you that this does violate our Good Sportsmanship policy.
We would ask you resign or play on in the future in order to make Chess.com a more friendly place to play!
Thank you,
Chess.com Support
[email protected]
And you are doing the same by playing "joke moves" and promoting to a bunch of knights. So what is the difference between what they are doing and what you are doing?
The difference is I'm doing it as a reaction, while they are doing it first.
Imagine someone spits on you, and you spit on them in response. And then you complain about people spitting on you. Would it be correct to say 'what's the difference, you spit on them?'
Oh I see...so here we are 2022, and we have reverted back to 7 year olds:
"Did you hit him?"
"Yea but he started it..."
You asked me what the difference was and I told you. Now you appear to be making some new argument. When you figure out what your point is, let me know.
Im just pointing out that youre acting like a child. Not insulting you, just pointing out your maturity level on this.
Youre complaining about something you are doing.
Two wrongs dont make a right.
Just a couple examples.
I disagree that doing something unprovoked is the same as doing it provoked.
When someone doesn't resign a hopelessly lost position, I like to mess with them by promoting everything (usually to horses) and making a bunch of joke moves before finally delivering checkmate. They are wasting time and dragging out the game by not resigning so I do the same to them.
I don't ever delay games or stall in any other situation. So I have to assume my doing that caused people to report me and made me get the message below. I'm wondering if this is something that is actually against the rules and they would suspend or ban my account for, if I keep doing it.
Dear 22289d
We’ve been receiving reports of stalling and disconnecting in your games. We want to remind you that this does violate our Good Sportsmanship policy.
We would ask you resign or play on in the future in order to make Chess.com a more friendly place to play!
Thank you,
Chess.com Support
[email protected]
And you are doing the same by playing "joke moves" and promoting to a bunch of knights. So what is the difference between what they are doing and what you are doing?
The difference is I'm doing it as a reaction, while they are doing it first.
Imagine someone spits on you, and you spit on them in response. And then you complain about people spitting on you. Would it be correct to say 'what's the difference, you spit on them?'
Oh I see...so here we are 2022, and we have reverted back to 7 year olds:
"Did you hit him?"
"Yea but he started it..."
You asked me what the difference was and I told you. Now you appear to be making some new argument. When you figure out what your point is, let me know.
Not only do I agree with you that there is a difference, I think the difference is that what you're doing is worse.
Now that you know that the vast majority of posters disagree with you (and with good reason), are you going to consider your bad sportsmanship behavior or have you learned something?
If it's against the rules, I will stop doing it.
If it's not against the rules, I will not stop doing it.
If you make your decisions in life based on what the vast majority of people in a forum tell you, I think you're doing it wrong.
3. And ... while I'm writing ... what is far worse than not resigning is the player who decides they are losing and mass spams draw requests. That's outright cheating in my book. (And yes there is a grey area where you may see that you are losing but may wonder if your opponent does not ... which may justify a first draw request, but not 10 in a row... people who do that are bad!).
If you're not aware, there is a little link to not receive any more draw requests for that game. Look in the pop up. Very useful against them and just people who keep requesting it.
When someone doesn't resign a hopelessly lost position, I like to mess with them by promoting everything (usually to horses) and making a bunch of joke moves before finally delivering checkmate. They are wasting time and dragging out the game by not resigning so I do the same to them.
I don't ever delay games or stall in any other situation. So I have to assume my doing that caused people to report me and made me get the message below. I'm wondering if this is something that is actually against the rules and they would suspend or ban my account for, if I keep doing it.
Dear 22289d
We’ve been receiving reports of stalling and disconnecting in your games. We want to remind you that this does violate our Good Sportsmanship policy.
We would ask you resign or play on in the future in order to make Chess.com a more friendly place to play!
Thank you,
Chess.com Support
[email protected]
And you are doing the same by playing "joke moves" and promoting to a bunch of knights. So what is the difference between what they are doing and what you are doing?
The difference is I'm doing it as a reaction, while they are doing it first.
Imagine someone spits on you, and you spit on them in response. And then you complain about people spitting on you. Would it be correct to say 'what's the difference, you spit on them?'
Oh I see...so here we are 2022, and we have reverted back to 7 year olds:
"Did you hit him?"
"Yea but he started it..."
You asked me what the difference was and I told you. Now you appear to be making some new argument. When you figure out what your point is, let me know.
Not only do I agree with you that there is a difference, I think the difference is that what you're doing is worse.
Now that you know that the vast majority of posters disagree with you (and with good reason), are you going to consider your bad sportsmanship behavior or have you learned something?
If it's against the rules, I will stop doing it.
If it's not against the rules, I will not stop doing it.
If you make your decisions in life based on what the vast majority of people in a forum tell you, I think you're doing it wrong.
1. Just because something isn't against the rules, doesn't mean it's not poor sportsmanship.
I could use provoking emotes during game and that's not against the rules, but its certainly poor sportsmanship.
2. Your decision shouldn't be based on the majority of people's perception, it should be WHY it's perceived that way.
For example, what you're doing in game is clearly and obviously immature, scummy, and absolute garbage.
So your decision shouldn't be that most people think what you're doing it immature, it should be based on the fact...it's simply immature...
That's why you should stop doing it.
It's funny how so many people put the focus on me wasting time by not checkmating fast enough, but not on the people wasting time by not resigning.
Perhaps if someone made a thread about people not checkmating them fast enough, they'd get a similar response. People telling them to just resign.
That's because, as was already pointed out, they are likely to have very good reasons to keep playing. If they think you don't know how to checkmate (and many beginners have this problem) they will play on. They are not wasting time if they feel they have a good chance at stalemate and/or feel you don't know what you are doing.
That's in contrast to your actions, which you admit just wastes time and you do it for "fun".
When someone doesn't resign a hopelessly lost position, I like to mess with them by promoting everything (usually to horses) and making a bunch of joke moves before finally delivering checkmate. They are wasting time and dragging out the game by not resigning so I do the same to them.
I don't ever delay games or stall in any other situation. So I have to assume my doing that caused people to report me and made me get the message below. I'm wondering if this is something that is actually against the rules and they would suspend or ban my account for, if I keep doing it.
Dear 22289d
We’ve been receiving reports of stalling and disconnecting in your games. We want to remind you that this does violate our Good Sportsmanship policy.
We would ask you resign or play on in the future in order to make Chess.com a more friendly place to play!
Thank you,
Chess.com Support
[email protected]
And you are doing the same by playing "joke moves" and promoting to a bunch of knights. So what is the difference between what they are doing and what you are doing?
The difference is I'm doing it as a reaction, while they are doing it first.
Imagine someone spits on you, and you spit on them in response. And then you complain about people spitting on you. Would it be correct to say 'what's the difference, you spit on them?'
Oh I see...so here we are 2022, and we have reverted back to 7 year olds:
"Did you hit him?"
"Yea but he started it..."
You asked me what the difference was and I told you. Now you appear to be making some new argument. When you figure out what your point is, let me know.
Not only do I agree with you that there is a difference, I think the difference is that what you're doing is worse.
Now that you know that the vast majority of posters disagree with you (and with good reason), are you going to consider your bad sportsmanship behavior or have you learned something?
If it's against the rules, I will stop doing it.
If it's not against the rules, I will not stop doing it.
If you make your decisions in life based on what the vast majority of people in a forum tell you, I think you're doing it wrong.
1. Just because something isn't against the rules, doesn't mean it's not poor sportsmanship.
I could use provoking emotes during game and that's not against the rules, but its certainly poor sportsmanship.
2. Your decision shouldn't be based on the majority of people's perception, it should be WHY it's perceived that way.
For example, what you're doing in game is clearly and obviously immature, scummy, and absolute garbage.
So your decision shouldn't be that most people think what you're doing it immature, it should be based on the fact...it's simply immature...
That's why you should stop doing it.
You're confusing your opinions for objective fact. Your opinions are not objective fact. They're just your opinions.
I have my own opinions. And they differ from yours.
It doesn't make any difference whether everybody or nobody agrees with me, I'm not going to change my mind about this. I came here to ask about rules, not about whether I should play the way I do.
Pulp:......"So it's all about getting a message"? He wasn't aware that the message he received,.....applies to many situations. Its not his job to "punish" members......its his choice to play members.
When someone doesn't resign a hopelessly lost position, I like to mess with them by promoting everything (usually to horses) and making a bunch of joke moves before finally delivering checkmate. They are wasting time and dragging out the game by not resigning so I do the same to them.
I don't ever delay games or stall in any other situation. So I have to assume my doing that caused people to report me and made me get the message below. I'm wondering if this is something that is actually against the rules and they would suspend or ban my account for, if I keep doing it.
Dear 22289d
We’ve been receiving reports of stalling and disconnecting in your games. We want to remind you that this does violate our Good Sportsmanship policy.
We would ask you resign or play on in the future in order to make Chess.com a more friendly place to play!
Thank you,
Chess.com Support
[email protected]
And you are doing the same by playing "joke moves" and promoting to a bunch of knights. So what is the difference between what they are doing and what you are doing?
The difference is I'm doing it as a reaction, while they are doing it first.
Imagine someone spits on you, and you spit on them in response. And then you complain about people spitting on you. Would it be correct to say 'what's the difference, you spit on them?'
Oh I see...so here we are 2022, and we have reverted back to 7 year olds:
"Did you hit him?"
"Yea but he started it..."
You asked me what the difference was and I told you. Now you appear to be making some new argument. When you figure out what your point is, let me know.
Not only do I agree with you that there is a difference, I think the difference is that what you're doing is worse.
Now that you know that the vast majority of posters disagree with you (and with good reason), are you going to consider your bad sportsmanship behavior or have you learned something?
If it's against the rules, I will stop doing it.
If it's not against the rules, I will not stop doing it.
If you make your decisions in life based on what the vast majority of people in a forum tell you, I think you're doing it wrong.
1. Just because something isn't against the rules, doesn't mean it's not poor sportsmanship.
I could use provoking emotes during game and that's not against the rules, but its certainly poor sportsmanship.
2. Your decision shouldn't be based on the majority of people's perception, it should be WHY it's perceived that way.
For example, what you're doing in game is clearly and obviously immature, scummy, and absolute garbage.
So your decision shouldn't be that most people think what you're doing it immature, it should be based on the fact...it's simply immature...
That's why you should stop doing it.
You're confusing your opinions for objective fact. Your opinions are not objective fact. They're just your opinions.
I have my own opinions. And they differ from yours.
It doesn't make any difference whether everybody or nobody agrees with me, I'm not going to change my mind about this. I came here to ask about rules, not about whether I should play the way I do.
I can have an opinion that calling every opponent stupid before a match begins is not poor sportsmanship.
But it doesn't make it reasonable.
Sorry man, you have a tendency to be a poor sport. You can fight it all you want, but it doesn't change anything.
In general, people who don't resign are just trying to see if they can win/draw.
People who underpromote to prolong the game are 100x worse.
I think at heart you know. I think you try to justify your poor actions to yourself, but realize how scummy it sounds when you share it with the community.
I never resign, even when being ripped a new one.
You'd be amazed at how many stalemates I've got with this tactic.
The tactic works but there are situations where it's not working and you either don't realize it or don't care to refine your strategy and be more efficient.
For example:
This is never going to be a stalemate, if your opponent deliberately set this up by walking your king over there. They know how to checkmate with two queens and that's what they are about to do.
"Never" is a very strong term. In four decades of working chess tournaments I've seen 1800 players defending the Black side of K vs K+P with the Black king on e6, the White pawn on e5, and still make a mistake and lose it.
I've seen weak players do things like play Qg7 in your position above planning on Qc4+ and mate the next move. Then getting surprised after the Black king moves and Qc4 is no longer a check but is now a stalemate. The same type of weak players are ones that draw K+Q vs K because every move was a queen check without moving that side's king. And when the arbiter verifies the (drawn) result and says they should learn from it then the same player in a later round again having K+Q vs K offers an immediate draw because the player has learned that time is saved that way. If those are the players you are facing then they do not even realize that you don't have to promote to deliver checkmate and you are failing to teach any lesson that you want to teach. (you are instead teaching them that if they have the same type of strong position then they still need to promote even more)
PS looking at the rating is not necessarily an indication of actual strength because many players unintentionally either underestimate or overestimate their strength. I don't know how many times high school chess coaches have had a parent of an incoming freshman contact them saying their kid is great, beats everybody in the neighborhood, beats everybody in the extended family, and will be their new top board - then it turns out that everybody in the family/neighborhood is a very weak player and the freshman needs a year of practice before having a chance of making even the bottom board on the team. Such players are likely to be honestly mistaken about their strength and choose 1200 or 1600 or 2000 as their starting rating.