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Dec 22, 2022
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#43
If two kings didn’t make a draw then wouldn’t it go on infinitely? Neither player would want to move their king where the opponent’s would take theirs but then they obviously couldn’t take the other king. That’s why it’s considered a draw- because when neither side can possibly win or lose there’s really no point in playing
May 23, 2023
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#46
Hey guys you can't checkmate with a king, when facing each other it is called "opposition"🤓🤓
May 23, 2023
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#47
Ok lets actually solve this with math (even tho I am not fully educated in Math)
A king has 9 tiles to move to (without piece)
Another king can't eliminate all those tiles.
If the black king for example is in the corner of the chess board then it has 3 tiles to go.
The king needs to both check and cover the escape squares of the king.
Cornering is not an option nor the opposition
In the opposition the king faced each other the king which has a turn now cannot go through the king.(watch a chess video about opposition for more info and understanding)
so infact you can't checkmate a king. Even if the king is surrounded by pieces by their own color, you cannot.
You cannot check a king with a king due to "opposition", so how do we checkmate a king with a king? you can't. Even if you try until 50 moves it draws because of the 50 move rule.
If a king tries to go to the corner, whatever square the king stands to... the checkmate is an impossibility.
EXAMPLE: The black king is backed to the corner and has three tiles to step, the white king cannot go diagonal towards the black king because of "opposition" so the white king must step at two directions which depends on what corner of the chessboard is the black king standing. So if the white king goes up then the black king escapes the corner because the black king has escape squares or a breathing room. Which leads to opposition again. And that's the reason why a black king and a white king only cannot checkmate.
Also there is no "Mate in 1 with a king"
Hope you understand my essay of explanation about opposition, draw and checkmate with a king.
May 23, 2023
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#48
First chess essay I written
And it's about a freaking king trying to checkmate another king without the help of another piece.
P.S You can checkmate with a king, knight and a bishop but you CAN"T checkmate with a king and bishop only or a king and knight only.
PromoteThePawnToSafety wrote:
First chess essay I written
And it's about a freaking king trying to checkmate another king without the help of another piece.
P.S You can checkmate with a king, knight and a bishop but you CAN"T checkmate with a king and bishop only or a king and knight only.
I hope your other mathematical proofs are a bit more efficient or you will be wasting a lot of our grants and subsidies!
Btw, the common procedure for such proofs is retrograde-analysis. Set up a checkmate situation between kings and prove that the last move was illegal!
May 23, 2023
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#52
Arisktotle wrote:
You are simply stubborn. This is not a point of opinion but an established fact. You can probably even find it in the chess rules and otherwise in the common communications of players and problemists.
Try to answer this question. If checkmate is attributed to the checking piece then what is stalemate attributed to?
The piece that makes the move resulting in stalemate.
In this case, Stalemate is attributed to The queen.
May 23, 2023
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#54
Chessflyfisher wrote:
Arisktotle wrote:
I hope it was a joke question indeed. But some people are so completely stupid .....
You're right! Just look at American politics.
you could theoretically
Jgcool1924 wrote:
The piece that makes the move resulting in stalemate.
In this case, Stalemate is attributed to The queen.
Correct! And the exact same is true for checkmate. The piece that makes the move resulting in checkmate is the checkmating move! Which is not always the checking unit as you can see e.g. in the nice en passant example Marattigan provided!
Check and checkmate are very different entities. Check is a relationship between a king and one opposing unit X. Sometimes X and Y together double check the king. But checkmate is an appreciation of the overall board position where many many units - up to about 15 - may contribute to leaving the king without escape options. There is also check in checkmate but that is just one of the conditions!
2718a wrote:
Does this count?
Good question! There are fairy chess variants where multiple kings may be captured - as long as one king on each side remains. So Kfg7 and Kgg7 would both be checkmate here. In other variants all the kings of one colour must be checkmated simulaneously. Checkmating just some would be illegal!
A few months ago I co-authored a retrograde fairy where 6 black kings were checkmated simultaneously by 1 en passant move! Unlikely but true!
Yes
May 29, 2023
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#60
blosse12 wrote:
you could theoretically
This puzzle's cooked.
I tried 1.Ke7# and it said "incorrect".
You should try adding a white pawn on e7.
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