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Can you mate with Queen and Bishop versus King?

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LouStule

In playing around with a few scenarios, I can't seem to mate just using a Queen and Bishop against the opposing King.  I'm thinking it has to be King and Queen versus the opposing King. Am I right? Thanks.

imsighked2

 

LouStule

I din't try it with the King on the edge. In my examples. I started with the King more centralized and could never corral it without help from the friendly King.. Thanks for the demo.

imsighked2

 

imsighked2

I just think of restricting the king's movements as much as possible. You should get Silman's Complete Endgame Course. Some of us get so into openings, we neglect endgames. What I like about his book is you increase your knowledge as you improve (it's broken down by rating). Start at the very beginnings (I did). Also, on this site, go to "Learn," "Lessons," then "Endgames." You'll learn a lot. If you don't get it, just click on the question mark. I like the lessons here because you can do them over and over until you get it down. I've lost games because I didn't understand proper endgame technique. I simplified to a king and pawn versus king, thinking I had it won, not realizing rook pawns make easy draws. It's nice to win a few with good endgame technique (I've got a lot of room to improve, but I'll keep working on it.)

Sqod

In case you didn't know, you can always corral the opponent's lone king with your queen alone, not even using your king or another piece, as shown below. Once corraled, you can then move in another piece to complete the mate. Just be careful of stalemate when your queen gets very close.

 

 

 

madscientist2969

Sometimes i just like to simplify things and give up the bishop.

LouStule
Thanks a lot you guys!
ce5000

 

MARattigan
ce5000 wrote:
 

 

Quicker:

 

King_HalfPaw

You can checkmate using your King and Queen alone. I find that more interesting happy.png

 

MARattigan
madscientist2969 wrote:

Sometimes i just like to simplify things and give up the bishop.

But in your position you can't then mate moving just the queen.

Axis-and_Allies-Fan
MARattigan wrote:
madscientist2969 wrote:

Sometimes i just like to simplify things and give up the bishop.

But in your position you can't then mate moving just the queen.

Mad Sciencetist was wrecked!

Ziggy_Zugzwang
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Axis-and_Allies-Fan
Ziggy_Zugzwang wrote:
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hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............................................................

 

MARattigan
goldenwriter wrote:

You get a knight's jump away from the king

 

That's mating with king and queen. OP asked for bishop and queen.

 

But with king and queen mate should never take more than ten moves.


 

MARattigan
King_HalfPaw wrote:

You can checkmate using your King and Queen alone. I find that more interesting

 

Could come in useful here perhaps (with or without the pawns).

 

ce5000

MARattigan, I was fooling around a little bit, I wasn't in my best chess form when I came up with that. Here's a better example

 

MARattigan

@ce5000 6.Qd7# (

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or from the start

 

RubenHogenhout

madscientist2969 schreef:

Sometimes i just like to simplify things and give up the bishop.

 

  Simplefy? I would first cut off the king in a way that your kingt is directy participating. That means try to mate on d1 or h4 near your King. so for example.