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Is rook & king v. rook & king always a draw?

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alma_eterna

I have had games that were just a rook and king per side that ended in a win or loss but the majority of the time it ends up being a draw.

happychess101

 

GM_chess_player
dillydream wrote:

It seems to me that there is no way for either side to get a win if each side has just a king and one rook.  Am I correct, or is there a way?

depends... in this position


s way:

FortunaMajor

Not always. 

 

eric0022

Yes, not always. Something like this can possibly occur.

 

 

Gil-Gandel
aravinds_ll wrote:

Not always. 

 

If you want to insist that Black can lose if he plays idiotically, why not just have him blunder the Rook at once and be done with it?

FortunaMajor
Gil-Gandel wrote:

If you want to insist that Black can lose if he plays idiotically, why not just have him blunder the Rook at once and be done with it?

You got a faster mate?

trolley813
checkmateibeatu wrote:

Here is the full analysis of that position...

 

Actually, after 1. c7 Rd6+ 2. Kb5 Rd5+ 3. Kb4 Rd4+ White can play 4. Kc3, since 4...Rd1 5. Kc2 Rd4 etc. leads to the main line.

arceus02


No, it’s easy to fall into a pin with a rook. But if both sides play carefully, a draw is highly probable. 

happychess101

 

Lord_Hammer

Not always. There are some cases where one king is trapped on the back rank and it turns into mate or something. 

tlay80

Some masochist recently thought this would be a fun thing to test out: https://www.chess.com/tournament/endgame-masters-rook-wars

With predictable results: https://www.chess.com/tournament/endgame-masters-rook-wars/pairings/2

Me, I'd rather light my hair on fire and put it out with a hammer.

Pulpofeira

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Chess_Is_Divine_555

There is a way to win with a rook & king.

Chess_Is_Divine_555

There is a way to win with a rook & king.

planetcity
Nah
MARattigan
Gil-Gandel wrote:
aravinds_ll wrote:

Not always. 

 

If you want to insist that Black can lose if he plays idiotically, why not just have him blunder the Rook at once and be done with it?

He did. Just that White played idiotically.

the_TN42
togepi2468 escreveu:

your pieces have eyes. 

also, +2 second games with gms most likely ends in draws in such a situation.
exemple: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq0vqj7E-ko

 

MARattigan

The player with the move wins. For how many positions with the kings on the squares shown and both rooks on their fourth ranks is this true?

MARattigan
arceus02 wrote:


No, it’s easy to fall into a pin with a rook. But if both sides play carefully, a draw is highly probable. 

If you feel it's necessary to play out the KRK ending, Black should put up the best defence. Walking to the h8 corner is not the most convincing start.

By the way White has mate in 2 after move 5.

@TripleXDooM In case @arceus02 is feeling victimised, the same comments apply in your post #7. The Black king walks directly to the edge of the board and waits there for the White king to catch him up. You also have mate in 6 after move 6 (as follows).