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mongemaconha
I don't know how to study/train endgames, so I dig into a random fellow profile till i find a good position in a game, then I finish the game vs the 2900 bot. Is this a good way to improve?
Cobra2721

Dont study endgames at ur level

mongemaconha
cogadhtintreach wrote:

Dont study endgames at ur level

Not even a bit? People tell me the same thing about openings, but it's fun to study these topics. but i will follow your advice and use my time in a better way

Cobra2721
mongemaconha wrote:
cogadhtintreach wrote:

Dont study endgames at ur level

Not even a bit? People tell me the same thing about openings, but it's fun to study these topics. but i will follow your advice and use my time in a better way

I think the best to do would be to learn how to stop making one move blunders, and when you get a bit better you can study endgames and openings

mongemaconha

I can avoid one move blunders, but yeah, tactics (or whatever they call it) seems more relevant for now

Laskersnephew

"Dont study endgames at ur level"

Bad advice

AtaChess68
Bad advice indeed. Studying endgames is extremely useful at any level.
Cobra2721

No, endgames are irelevant at 800 level, just dont blunder

LogoCzar

trains indeed exist.

peepchuy
mongemaconha wrote:
I don't know how to study/train endgames, so I dig into a random fellow profile till i find a good position in a game, then I finish the game vs the 2900 bot. Is this a good way to improve?

Hi.

It is good training.

It would be better if you take the positions from grandmaster games, and if you are somewhat more methodical to choose them. For example, you could take all the pawn endings that appear in the current World Cup.

At your level, facing the 2900 bot seems too much, unless the position is a relatively easy win. If it is a complicated ending, you will lose both sides and will not know why or how. Perhaps you can try against a weaker bot, around 2000.

If you think the position is won for one side, you take that side and try to win. If you think the position is drawn, you play both sides (first one, then the other) and try to draw.

Greetings.

mongemaconha

thanks, peepchuy, nice ideas on how to improve. greetings

OldPatzerMike

Practicing endgames is a very good idea for several reasons.

1. It helps hone your calculation skills.

2. It enhances your appreciation for the powers and limitations of various pieces, which is valuable in all phases of the game.

3. Understanding the potential endgame helps you make important middle game decisions.

4. It will help you win, or in an inferior position draw, if you do reach the ending in one of your games.

5. It's fun, and mastering some aspect of the endgame is satisfying and confidence building.

Your method of studying endings sounds pretty good. Also, chesstempo has endgame training exercises that you would find helpful. The best way to learn is by sitting down with a strong player who can guide you along, but that's rarely practical.

RichColorado

mizant

Seems like that both answers are at the same time correct and incorrect. One should study endgames at that level (elo 400), but not those endgames one can find in a book (for instance the one posted above my reply), nor any kind of endgame theory. Only simple endgame position, when one can see the pure logic behind each played move.

AtaChess68
Have you read Silman’s endgame course Mizant? I think the book is perfect for absolute beginners upto my level (1500). I can’t judge it for higher levels of course.

Deaconsz

You need to learn how to mate with different combination of pieces , then work on how to make the right moves like preventing the opposition's pawns from promoting and defending your pieces , promoting your pawns or setting up positions for checkmate. There aren't mostly a lot of pieces present during endgame so many a time it comes down to moving 2 or 3 pieces which might include a pawn - which can move only a single square after its first move if not already played - and your king . You might be in a promotion race with only these 2 pieces so each move counts and may very well define winning or losing so learning to calculate positions and play strategically is an important skill during endgames . You can practice making the right moves in endgame through puzzles , games with bots and other players and drills as well

putshort
Its called a drill if you lose your endgame against the computer just restart until you win if you know it’s a win and it’s an endgame besides.
TheGuyThatIsNew

I play against engines in endgame positions usually positions I bring from a game and play it either from my own or others or a custom one. It's a good way to implement what you learned while not doing against a real player, and also bots are better at endgames than people are from those I've played against. Just don't set the bot too high unless it's like a forced mate and if you can make it happen like B+B v K.

itismeak

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