Please help with Queen vs. Rook Endgame

Hello everyone!! I'm an 8 year old beginner chess player and I would like to know how to checkmate with Queen vs. Rook. I need help mastering this endgame because I have tried this before in the endgame drills but I have been unsuccessful. I would greatly appreciate all your tips. Thank you very much.

This is a very hard endgame to master. Even for very strong players. Don't think that limited material makes it easy.

I will recommend that you try to learn other endgames fist. I haven't learned this ebdgame yet! 

Okay Thank you!!!! I will just try mastering my bishop and knight checkmate because I almost got it. Thank you again!

I think most people would agree that the Q vs R is not only difficult to learn/master, but also is rarely met. 

Should players cannot overlook this skillset, I recommended the book Winning Chess Endings, by GM Yasser Seirawan. Not only is this an engaging endgame book, but it also has an entire chapter dedicated to this rare slice of endgame theory.

Okay Thank you!

For what it's worth, I haven't mastered Q vs R yet. And in my entire chess career, I've never had that ending come up. 

World class GMs have failed to win this ending.

https://chessdailynews.com/can-a-2750-win-a-queen-vs-rook-endgame/

Oh okay

There is one critical position where each reply by the rook side is met by a concrete reply by the queen side to win. it is quite difficult to master. Usually when the position does arise in real games, there is either a way to brute force taking the rook or eventually the defending side falters in the defense and loses. it very rare becomes a theoretical defense.

more useful than this or K and B vs K would be to learn how to attack/defend in
B vs R
B vs N

R and B vs R

these are far more common

so a position can look like this, right?

you should learn easier to master endgames first, like the ones presented in the endgame drills like pawn majority, or using a pawn as a decoy for the other king. not only are those much more common, but are also useful to know. then, you should lightly touch opening theory but, importantly do a load of tactics. at the level you are at, tactics is everything once you have covered converting a winning position. practically every game a player would blunder, and the tactics help you spot it.

i havent done a q v r endgame b4 personally, and i havent studied for it either lol.

Thank you for reminding me about that. This Queen vs. Rook endgame is hard to master as i've seen so I will just practice some other endgames.

okay

What you want is

ISHI PR. ISBN 9784871875059

Volume 3 of Averbakh's Comprehensive Chess Endings, Queen and Pawn Endings Queen Against Rook Endings Queen Against Minor Piece Endings. Work your way through the diagrams. (Try to get the answer before you read the solution.)

According to Müller & Lamprecht this endgame comes up twenty times as often as bishop & knight. I remember getting into it at least twice myself, but never into bishop & knight. I'd also agree that it's harder. So carry on trying it! (Carrry on with bishop & knight, too, but queen v rook is more likely to come in useful some day.)

Did you really mean B vs N? Unless there are some other pieces about there wouldn't seem to be much point.

A position can look like that and be either White to play (as you entered it) or Black to play. If you're playing White it's more convenient with Black to play.

See if you can find a way to change it to Black to play. (It only takes three moves.) Then see how you can take the rook.

If that is the case - which I doubt - the reason is that there is no harm in trying to win a drawing position for a while and there are a few that win. On the other side it takes considerable stubbornness to continue the game in a theoretically lost position. Most players will resign unless the theory is hard on the level of the players of that game. Which is probably still the case in the Q vs R ending below master level. But what remains true throughout is that most games end when the players see the result coming and decide not to waste anyones time on it. Therefore it is quite irrelevant to tally which endgames actually appear in game practice. The endgame theory of Q vs R is relevant (even if not actually played) because it covers the transformation of many rook endings (very common) into an unstoppable Q-promotion in exchange for a rook sacrifice.

Obviously, all clock issues throw confusion in the mix. You can't realistically discuss theory for situations where time is running out.

For basic endgames like KQKR I don't think there's much correlation between playing strength and how well a player plays the ending. How well a player can play such an ending depends on how much the player has studied the ending. How strong a player is depends on how much he has studied the opening and his tactical ability, because a player's rating depends on the outcome of games and basic endgames are the last thing that might occur.

@paxrosales might like to find better moves for White and Black than the two following the position shown in this game for example.

From a theoretical point of view you could assume each player completes each move within half the time remaining on the clock (though this could mean violating physical laws in practice).

Treading on the arbiter's big toe might be more difficult to take into account.