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Xanitrep

Silman had an errata list for this book on his old website. I can't find it on his new site, so here's a link to a version from Feb 2012 courtesy of the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine. It covers the issue that you mention as well as several others.

numlock1812

Thank you, Xanitrep!  Very much appreciated. 

XxDarkKnight402xX

Silmans book is the one i use, I recommend it, it will serve you well for years before you need anything else. Btw, Bishop and Knight checkmate is not included because it is a waste of time to learn, it is a statistical anomaly, plus youtube has plenty of videos on that, so don't make a decision because of that dumb fact.

numlock1812
XxDarkKnight402xX wrote:

Silmans book is the one i use, I recommend it, it will serve you well for years before you need anything else. Btw, Bishop and Knight checkmate is not included because it is a waste of time to learn, it is a statistical anomaly, plus youtube has plenty of videos on that, so don't make a decision because of that dumb fact.

Thanks, yes, agreed.  But I once actually came to a Bishop and Knight v King against my computer program.  The program (Shredder at about 1400) immediately resigned.  Of course, I had only the vaguest idea how to mate with Bishop and Knight (and still can't).  But I notched the victory anyway. 

Impervious01
I have heard that Fundamental Chess Endings is excellent
varelse1

I got B+N once ever. In an internet blitz game.

And even though i had literally JUST been studying it, i only had like 3 seconds left on my clock.

Game was a draw.

varelse1
Levent_Acemi wrote:
varelse1 yazdı:

I got B+N once ever. In an internet blitz game.

And even though i had literally JUST been studying it, i only had like 3 seconds left on my clock.

Game was a draw.

How old are you?

Just turned 50

varelse1

Not at all.

B+N teaches you to coordinate your pieces. Use them in harmony.

Not a waste at all.

GamboldV

Silman's is a good first "serious" endgame book. It's large and his style is always easy to read and helpful.  If you become an endgame obsessive you''ll need to move on to something denser and less fun to read. 

MSteen

Aside from being very comprehensive and directed toward the level that you are currently playing at, Silman's book is a great resource because IT IS ENJOYABLE TO READ.  And if something makes you want to keep coming back to it, it is far more valuable than a denser and more complete book that bores you to tears. I love Silman's endgame book.

 

Gomer_Pyle
varelse1 wrote:

Not at all.

B+N teaches you to coordinate your pieces. Use them in harmony.

Not a waste at all.

That's one of the benefits of studying endgames. They teach you piece coordination better than openings and middle games. If you understand what can or can't be accomplished in endgames you can steer toward advantageous positions in the middle game.

tjwebb
defenestrated wrote:

The point of learning the B+K endgame is to gain a greater understanding of the knights and bishops game mechanics and how they interact, not so that you have the knowledge just in case it actually occurs.  That Silman doesn't understand that angle to it is surprising and disapointing.

There are "HUNDREDS" of resources online to learn all the endgames, so why buy the book at all........

It's always nice to see ~1600 players telling an IM he doesn't understand chess.

LeventK11111111
tjwebb yazdı:
defenestrated wrote:

The point of learning the B+K endgame is to gain a greater understanding of the knights and bishops game mechanics and how they interact, not so that you have the knowledge just in case it actually occurs.  That Silman doesn't understand that angle to it is surprising and disapointing.

There are "HUNDREDS" of resources online to learn all the endgames, so why buy the book at all........

It's always nice to see ~1600 players telling an IM he doesn't understand chess.

It's always nice to see ~1500 players humiliate ~1600 players.

GamboldV

>There are "HUNDREDS" of resources online to learn all the endgames, so why buy the book at all........<

A couple of reasons.  1) None of those "free resources" on the Internet are vetted.  Since you aren't paying for them, you have no expectation that what you are reading is worth anything. 

2) Silman has a long-standing reputation as a quality chess teacher.  Generally his books have a value that transcend what you are going to find on the Internet for free. 

 

 

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numlock1812
themaskedbishop wrote:

>There are "HUNDREDS" of resources online to learn all the endgames, so why buy the book at all........<

A couple of reasons.  1) None of those "free resources" on the Internet are vetted.  Since you aren't paying for them, you have no expectation that what you are reading is worth anything. 

2) Silman has a long-standing reputation as a quality chess teacher.  Generally his books have a value that transcend what you are going to find on the Internet for free. 

 

 

But e.g. the Shredder website has an endgame database that offers solutions to any position with six or fewer pieces.  There are other such authoritative endgame websites that are very useful.  I was following one where Carlsen was solving 100 endgame problems online.  

GamboldV

If you are a good enough player to just use databases for study, that would work.  Silman provides teaching for beginners and early intermediates that can be useful.  I'm not trying to be a shill for Silman - not everything he writes is great.  I think his Amateur's Mind is hugely over-rated and not very helpful to anyone. For some reason it stays in print. 

numlock1812

If you are a good enough player to just use databases for study, that would work. Silman provides teaching for beginners and early intermediates that can be useful. I'm not trying to be a shill for Silman - not everything he writes is great. I think his Amateur's Mind is hugely over-rated and not very helpful to anyone. For some reason it stays in print.

Who said anything about "just using databases."  I'm responding to your claim "that none of these internet resources are vetted" etc.  There are plenty of reliable endgame resources on the Internet.  Why one or the other?  Silman is very useful too.  I'm studying his endgame book now.  I also use the Shredder databases.  Anything wrong with that?

numlock1812
themaskedbishop wrote:

If you are a good enough player to just use databases for study, that would work.  Silman provides teaching for beginners and early intermediates that can be useful.  I'm not trying to be a shill for Silman - not everything he writes is great.  I think his Amateur's Mind is hugely over-rated and not very helpful to anyone. For some reason it stays in print. 

Who said anything about "just using databases." Not me.  I'm just responding to your claim "that none of these internet resources are vetted" etc.

In fact there are plenty of reliable endgame resources on the Internet.  Silman is very useful too. I'm studying his endgame book now. I also use the Shredder databases. Anything wrong with that?

DarkKnightAttack
DENVERHIGH wrote:

 

Yeah, excellent book. A must read.