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Any Benefit of a brand new player starting with Chess960 over standard chess?

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Elderly-Woman

As in if you were a brand-new player with no experience is there any benefit to starting with Chess960?

Eloxadrez

I think you should learn the basics of normal chess first. Variants can be confusing. Especially when you are new to chess.

DejarikDreams

The only difference between regular chess and 960 is that 960 throws the opening library out the While your other chess skills might improve, your knowledge of openings might fall behind.

FajarIbad

Go for GothamChess tutorials! He really helps me a lot!! :)

GooseChess

Honestly I think it's fine. Brand new players never properly learn (and never should bother learning) theory anyways, and if you ever go to normal chess the opening difference won't be any different than say someone switching from e4 to d4.

checkmated0001

switching from e4 to d4 can tank your rating by a hundred points or more. Most people are a lot more comfortable with one opening archetype than another, and more familiar with the traps and plans in one archetype versus another. Not knowing opening theory can be disastrous. I'd say stick to the normal stuff for now.

GooseChess
checkmated0001 wrote:

switching from e4 to d4 can tank your rating by a hundred points or more. Most people are a lot more comfortable with one opening archetype than another, and more familiar with the traps and plans in one archetype versus another. Not knowing opening theory can be disastrous. I'd say stick to the normal stuff for now.

For >1200 yes. For a complete beginner like OP, opening theory is not productive for gaining rating, and OP shouldn't be worried about rating anyways, but instead learning tactics, end games, and enjoying their games. If OP ever decides to move to regular chess, it'll be a minor difference than if they had been playing regular chess the whole time and decided to start learning opening theory (or to learn a new opening) now that they aren't blundering their queen every few moves.

checkmated0001

I agree and disagree.

I just switched from d4 to e4, and have no idea how to respond to a lot of the traps and openings that come with it. if a 1700 can struggle with this stuff, anyone can. It's probably better if OP learns the opening(s) along with basic tactics, endgames, etc.

BlackHole7625_R

maybe cuz i never really care abut openings but when i did i was 1800ish but then i strted not caring of openings so now im 2000 so 960 first is a yes

GooseChess
checkmated0001 wrote:

I agree and disagree.

I just switched from d4 to e4, and have no idea how to respond to a lot of the traps and openings that come with it. if a 1700 can struggle with this stuff, anyone can. It's probably better if OP learns the opening(s) along with basic tactics, endgames, etc.

It's definitely also a struggle for new players to change openings, however they have the leisure of putting zero effort into their openings at all and getting the same results. The amount of hanging pieces and blunders <1200 means being better out of the opening doesn't correlate with who actually wins the game.

Also nobody plays main lines, or even side lines, so he'll be way out of theory by move 2 or 3 in almost every game. If he does decide to play regular chess, my advice is to not worry about openings and just focus on opening principles that would also apply to 960 chess.

checkmated0001

No arguments there. I guess I'm just more used to normal chess setups.

nartreb
GooseChess escreveu:

Honestly I think it's fine. Brand new players never properly learn (and never should bother learning) theory anyways, and if you ever go to normal chess the opening difference won't be any different than say someone switching from e4 to d4.

I completely agree with this argument, but it doesn't answer the question. Is there any *benefit* to starting with 960?
I honestly don't know, I didn't start that way and I don't know anyone who has.
Maybe starting with 960 is good training for finding tactics? Maybe it makes it harder to learn positional strategies (maybe it doesn't) or even which piece to develop first in a standard setup? It likely would be a disadvantage once reaching some minimum level if you've never seen Scholar's Mate or Wayward Queen, and of course at some point you're going to want to learn opening theory so you're not spending all your time in the opening.
But who knows, maybe starting with 960 has advantages that more than make up for those downsides.

DejarikDreams

I agree with not learning opening theories. However, players should have experience with various openings to get a feel for them, and therefore have a general idea for openings that person might want to learn in the future.

There’s no reason why a person can’t play both.