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ImTrashLOL_91

I have been struggling trying to get above 1000 rating rapid points, currently I'm 700. Does beating the high level bots help any? I recently beat the Manuel bot that is rated 2100. Is this a good sign of improvement or does it mean absolutely nothing and should be disregarded? Is playing bots pointless because they are to easy? I will link my game. Please take a look at tell me if I played ok. 

I was playing as BLACK.

Aston_Dong
No I don’t think it helps
Aston_Dong
Where is your link game?
casualchesseasymode

i watched this game, and it didnt play like a 2100, sometimes, they make mistakes on purpose, and its a bit random, try beating that bot 2100 10 times out of 20 or so, and i beat you would be very good at beating players rated 1600 to 1700.

masterius77

Haha I can't even beat up on the bots that are 1600 and higher though I'm getting somewhat closer to that by the day. Never beaten a 2000 not yet though. I think it helps playing bots, to learn how to stay even in material. Or even gain an advantage. A lot of the bots will have certain openings they play so it could be good practice for opening theory.

Roarsbaby

I'm stuck at Lorenzo bot at 1800. I would love to play actual people. My rating is 841.
Anyone fancy a game?

JBarryChess

I think playing the bots helps keep or get back "chess sight." I'm tilting again so I'm going to play the bots more. I think the bots' ratings are inflated by 80% to 100%, in other words a 2,000 rated bot is more or less equal to a 1,000 rated person, maybe 1,200 or so.

ImTrashLOL_91
JBarryChess wrote:

I think playing the bots helps keep or get back "chess sight." I'm tilting again so I'm going to play the bots more. I think the bots' ratings are inflated by 80% to 100%, in other words a 2,000 rated bot is more or less equal to a 1,000 rated person, maybe 1,200 or so.

That's what I was thinking. They need to be more realistic with their bot ratings.

ImTrashLOL_91
casualchesseasymode wrote:

i watched this game, and it didnt play like a 2100, sometimes, they make mistakes on purpose, and its a bit random, try beating that bot 2100 10 times out of 20 or so, and i beat you would be very good at beating players rated 1600 to 1700.

I can't come close to matching up with 1,500 - 1,600 rated players. My brother is 1,800 and he beats me 99% of the time in a humiliating way. I struggle with beating a lot of 700-800 rated players.

ImTrashLOL_91
Aston_Dong wrote:
Where is your link game?

The game should show in this post. There should be a visible chess borad? I see it still in my post.

AdhvaithAjay

playing bots does not help, I have beaten the paul morphy bot because it blundered. I was 1400. Bots are programmed to make mistakes, but humans a;ways try their best. If you are at a rating level, its best to just play players from that rating level. At your level, since you do a lot of puzzzles, try to set traps. I'm not saying hope chess is the best method, but 700s won't see a simple discovered attack 9 times out of 10. Traps are honestly how I broke 1300 for the first time.

Fr3nchToastCrunch

The bot ELOs are hardly accurate.

When I was fully new to the game, even I was utterly dumbfounded by how bad Martin is. Dude just blundered his queen on move 7 and I sat there for like 30 seconds, trying to figure out if it was some sort of trick. But it wasn't. He just blundered out of nowhere. The harder bots weren't much better; it wasn't until I got to a 1200 bot that I started having issues.

It was so bad that when I started playing people, I got pretty disheartened, because I was getting steamrolled. Eventually I got better, but still.

Bots exist solely to teach you how to play the game and how to punish mistakes (that won't ever happen unless your opponent slips, is exceptionally bad, or is losing on purpose), not how to actually play well.

ImTrashLOL_91
Fr3nchToastCrunch wrote:

The bot ELOs are hardly accurate.

When I was fully new to the game, even I was utterly dumbfounded by how bad Martin is. Dude just blundered his queen on move 7 and I sat there for like 30 seconds, trying to figure out if it was some sort of trick. But it wasn't. He just blundered out of nowhere. The harder bots weren't much better; it wasn't until I got to a 1200 bot that I started having issues.

It was so bad that when I started playing people, I got pretty disheartened, because I was getting steamrolled. Eventually I got better, but still.

Bots exist solely to teach you how to play the game and how to punish mistakes (that won't ever happen unless your opponent slips, is exceptionally bad, or is losing on purpose), not how to actually play well.

That's crazy. Lol. I'm going to see how bad the 3000 rated bot is. Because the 2000 was not very difficult. It had good reactions, but just using simple tactics allowed me to defeat it.

Jaydensucksatches
I defeated the 1700 level 13 bot, but not Isabel, the 1600 Elo bot