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Sarkyoshi8888

I quote every queen advice I read in this thread about focusing on nelson's queen early moves. Btw I beat him easily in bullets, I don't know if it's based but it's much easier to me. .

PCBTW

the thing i did was trading queens and i won

ElBarracuda73

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Donnsteinz

I don't see why anyone would need a particular lesson or course to beat one of the weakest bots on chess.com lol.

 

also this one where I'm black (don't know why I'm unable to post 2 games in a single post. chess.com won't allow me): https://www.chess.com/game/computer/5674773

Just don't get scholar-mated in 4 moves (It's not that hard happy.png) and on the 5th move he'll blunder a piece. It's 100% guaranteed. Wasted my time by playing 2 games with him just to post this lol.  

NikkiLikeChikki

I think the Nelson bot is the best bot that beginners can play against. Why? First, he teaches you how to defend, and if you don't defend properly, you will lose. Second, he's breaking principles by not developing and just attacking with his queen and maybe one other piece. If you survive the initial onslaught, you *will* be better.

Don't think of playing Nelson as just one in a checklist of bots you need to beat in order to cross him off the list. Nelson's play is almost indistinguishable from a beginner player who just plays with his queen and hopes you mess up. He's a fantastic bot to learn from.

Pezwig
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RobertJames_Fisher

when people bring their queen out don't panic and don't chase the queen. Develop your pieces naturally and when you can develop and attack queen at the same time its a double win

Donnsteinz
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:

I think the Nelson bot is the best bot that beginners can play against. Why? First, he teaches you how to defend, and if you don't defend properly, you will lose. Second, he's breaking principles by not developing and just attacking with his queen and maybe one other piece. If you survive the initial onslaught, you *will* be better.

Don't think of playing Nelson as just one in a checklist of bots you need to beat in order to cross him off the list. Nelson's play is almost indistinguishable from a beginner player who just plays with his queen and hopes you mess up. He's a fantastic bot to learn from.

 

I don't agree fully... for example look at the game I've given above, after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Qf6 3.Nc3 a6 4.Bc4 no one, not even the beginnerest of all beginners would play 4...d5 (instead 4...h6 seems more natural beginnerish). It's just not the way beginners play. Since they mostly play by inertia, seeming that all white's developed pieces are aiming at d5, no one would think of placing a piece there. And also ...d5 was not in their main play with 2...Of6. Unless of course, the beginner in question is attempting to play blind chess, I don't see any way in which they can relate to Nelson-Bot's play after the first 2 moves.

shanemkelty

Finally beat Nelson after a countless amount of tries. Honestly, this was the best feeling of my chess journey thus far.

AdityaPatel17

Here is my game against nelson for anyone who is struggling. For some reason, it says I played Junior-BOT instead of nelson. I am playing as black.

 

 

AdityaPatel17

Here's some more advice, now we all know that nelson is aggressive, and even if you manage to take his queen, he will most likely continue attacking with bishops and rooks, his other long-range pieces. My theory is that he values bishops over knights. Nelson wants you to chase his queen around, so he can mess up your development. Don't give him satisfaction. Instead, do as other people say, develop your pieces first. Then launch an attack on the queen. While you're doing this, take note of the queen's position. Look at the pieces the queen could capture and ask yourself, are these pieces properly defended. Also, think about this, is the queen and/or any other piece threatening checkmate.  Considering these factors will help you gain a huge advantage over nelson and any other aggressive player. There are even some openings I recommend to counter Nelson's aggressive ways. These include for white, kings pawn opening, and Mcdonnell defense with Knight to d5. For black, the french defense, kings pawn, Indian game, modern defense. I hope this helps.

 

 

Feryus
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Marcyful
AdityaPatel17 wrote:

Here is my game against nelson for anyone who is struggling. For some reason, it says I played Junior-BOT instead of nelson. I am playing as black.

 
 

 

Apparently, Junior is his real name. It even says so in his profile.

AdityaPatel17

Strange

Marcyful
AdityaPatel17 wrote:

Strange

Exactly, and as far as I know, only the Nelson bot has this identity crisis issue.

chapadoya

Just play the London System.

AdityaPatel17

As for the London system, you could since its very positional I guess.

toxic_internet

I almost never, ever beat Nelson.  Maybe 1 out of 10 or 15 tries.

toxic_internet

Even resigning early down -9 I find there are at least 3 or 4 recorded blunders.

Just shameful.

kemmrich

Don't get caught up in chasing his queen around.   In the opening you will have three of four moves where you can just develop pieces at the expense of him having to retreat the queen.  After that, just play as solid as you can.  If you chase the queen too long, you might capture it, or you might find yourself in a poor position trying to defend your own king (from experience)!