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SacrifycedStoat
1cbb wrote:

In xiangqi, the knight's movement is restricted by a piece placed in front of it in the direction that it wants to move to. If that was the case in chess, a triple check would be possible if e8=N+++ was played in the following position.

 

That doesn’t work. When the move was played, black was already in check, so that men’s black played an illegal move to get into that position.

SacrifycedStoat
RandomChessPlayer62 wrote:
bajiaqsa0 wrote:

A triple check in chess is a rare and powerful tactical motif where a single move delivers check to the opponent's king from three different pieces simultaneously. Here's how it generally works and how you can set up or recognize a triple check:

How Triple Check Works:
Setup with a Double Check: Typically, a triple check requires a double check scenario first. A double check occurs when two pieces deliver check to the opponent’s king at the same time, usually as a result of moving a piece that uncovers a check from a different piece (often a sliding piece like a rook, bishop, or queen).
Add a Third Checking Piece: To achieve a triple check, the piece that moves must itself also deliver check. This can happen if:

A pawn is promoted to a knight (or other piece) and delivers check.
A discovered check is created, and the moving piece also gives a direct check.
A unique scenario arises where one piece moves, delivering a check by itself, while uncovering a check from two other pieces.
Example Scenario for Triple Check:
Imagine a situation on the board where:

A rook and a bishop are lined up with the opponent’s king, ready to give a discovered check.
A pawn moves forward and promotes to a knight, giving a direct check.
The promotion of the pawn also uncovers the checks from the rook and the bishop.
Here’s a sample setup:

White: King on e1, Bishop on c4, Rook on e4, Pawn on d7.
Black: King on e8.
White to move: d7-d8=N+

The move d7-d8=N promotes the pawn to a knight, delivering check.
At the same time, this move uncovers a double check from the rook on e4 and the bishop on c4.
The black king is now in a triple check from the knight on d8, the rook on e4, and the bishop on c4.
How to Use Triple Check Effectively:
Force King Moves: Since triple checks involve multiple attacking pieces, the opponent’s king usually has no choice but to move, as capturing or blocking the checks is impossible.
Create Tactical Opportunities: Use triple checks to create strong tactical threats or force winning combinations, as the opponent will be very limited in their response options.
Recognizing Potential Triple Check Setups:
Look for alignment of your pieces that could potentially deliver discovered checks.
Consider moves that could both deliver a check and unveil other checks, particularly involving promotion scenarios or pieces like rooks and bishops.
Triple checks are rare and require a specific setup, but when executed, they can be a very powerful tactic in a game of chess!

That does not work.

RandomChessPlayer62
SacrifycedStoat wrote:
1cbb wrote:

In xiangqi, the knight's movement is restricted by a piece placed in front of it in the direction that it wants to move to. If that was the case in chess, a triple check would be possible if e8=N+++ was played in the following position.

 

That doesn’t work. When the move was played, black was already in check, so that men’s black played an illegal move to get into that position.

they're talking about xiangqi chess in this comment, in xiangqi the knight isn't checking the king because it isn't a leaper in xiangqi

RandomChessPlayer62
XPGK99 wrote:
SacrifycedStoat wrote:
RandomChessPlayer62 wrote:
bajiaqsa0 wrote:

A triple check in chess is a rare and powerful tactical motif where a single move delivers check to the opponent's king from three different pieces simultaneously. Here's how it generally works and how you can set up or recognize a triple check:

How Triple Check Works:
Setup with a Double Check: Typically, a triple check requires a double check scenario first. A double check occurs when two pieces deliver check to the opponent’s king at the same time, usually as a result of moving a piece that uncovers a check from a different piece (often a sliding piece like a rook, bishop, or queen).
Add a Third Checking Piece: To achieve a triple check, the piece that moves must itself also deliver check. This can happen if:

A pawn is promoted to a knight (or other piece) and delivers check.
A discovered check is created, and the moving piece also gives a direct check.
A unique scenario arises where one piece moves, delivering a check by itself, while uncovering a check from two other pieces.
Example Scenario for Triple Check:
Imagine a situation on the board where:

A rook and a bishop are lined up with the opponent’s king, ready to give a discovered check.
A pawn moves forward and promotes to a knight, giving a direct check.
The promotion of the pawn also uncovers the checks from the rook and the bishop.
Here’s a sample setup:

White: King on e1, Bishop on c4, Rook on e4, Pawn on d7.
Black: King on e8.
White to move: d7-d8=N+

The move d7-d8=N promotes the pawn to a knight, delivering check.
At the same time, this move uncovers a double check from the rook on e4 and the bishop on c4.
The black king is now in a triple check from the knight on d8, the rook on e4, and the bishop on c4.
How to Use Triple Check Effectively:
Force King Moves: Since triple checks involve multiple attacking pieces, the opponent’s king usually has no choice but to move, as capturing or blocking the checks is impossible.
Create Tactical Opportunities: Use triple checks to create strong tactical threats or force winning combinations, as the opponent will be very limited in their response options.
Recognizing Potential Triple Check Setups:
Look for alignment of your pieces that could potentially deliver discovered checks.
Consider moves that could both deliver a check and unveil other checks, particularly involving promotion scenarios or pieces like rooks and bishops.
Triple checks are rare and require a specific setup, but when executed, they can be a very powerful tactic in a game of chess!

That does not work.

I think it could it just have to be a really weird setup and you'd have to underpromote most likely

No, it is impossible

RandomChessPlayer62

For a triple check, you would need to have two pieces blocked by one piece that would move to create a third check. Let's look at B+R because it's the only setup that could possibly enable this

The pawn is placed on the one square that the paths meet, but the paths never meet again, so only just the rook or just the bishop will check the king (the pawn/knight may also check the king but that's just a double-check.

Here's the others for good measure

RandomChessPlayer62

Note: The queen may intersect with the paths multiple times but that just means you can't put a king there so it still holds up

RandomChessPlayer62

Ok my explanation made no sense

magipi

What happened is that a spambot (bajiaqsa0) "wrote" a lengthy post that makes absolutely no sense. Most likely it was written by ChatGPT about double check, and then the spambot changed every "double" to "triple". Then XPGK99 doubled down on the nonsense talking about "a really weird setup" and "underpromote most likely". When in reality it's completely impossible, weird setup or not.

RandomChessPlayer62
XPGK99 wrote:
magipi wrote:

What happened is that a spambot (bajiaqsa0) "wrote" a lengthy post that makes absolutely no sense. Most likely it was written by ChatGPT about double check, and then the spambot changed every "double" to "triple". Then XPGK99 doubled down on the nonsense talking about "a really weird setup" and "underpromote most likely". When in reality it's completely impossible, weird setup or not.

Damn bro chill I thought maybe a setup like this would work where you underpromote to a night but it obviously didn't.

It should be so simple.

magipi
XPGK99 wrote:

Ye ik I'm just annoyed that this same oldhead is attacking me on every post because on one chess post he didn't understand a chess meme.

Nobody is attacking you, it's you who repeatedly make a fool of yourself because you speak without thinking.

magipi
XPGK99 wrote:

Dude, you've followed me on to three different forums just so you can be the nerd emoji irl.

I'm following no one. I'm just reading the forums, and you happen to speak nonsense in a few of them.

albadkodra

In chess, achieving a "triple check" is a rare and dramatic tactic where a single move delivers three simultaneous checks to the opponent's king. Here’s how it works and how you can attempt it in a game:

Key Conditions for a Triple Check
Pieces Involved: At least two pieces (not pawns) and potentially one discovered check by a piece or the queen.
Discovered Check: The move must uncover checks by at least two other pieces.
Steps to Execute or Look for Triple Check
Set up for a Discovered Check:

Position your pieces so moving one will uncover checks from at least two others.
This might involve a combination of a rook, bishop, or queen.
Move the Third Piece to Check:

While uncovering the discovered checks, the piece you move also gives check.
King's Limited Options:

In a triple check, the opponent's king is forced to move since no single block or capture can address three simultaneous checks. https://hitvapps.com/hitv-for-pc/
 
Example Position
Here’s a classic setup for a triple check:

A bishop is on a diagonal targeting the opponent's king.
A rook is on the same rank or file as the king.
A knight moves to check the king while simultaneously uncovering the rook's and bishop's checks.
 
Practical Tips to Use Triple Check
Tactical Vision: Look for discovered check opportunities involving multiple attacking pieces.
Opponent’s Piece Placement: Triple checks are more likely when the opponent's king is exposed.
Sacrifices to Set Up: Be willing to sacrifice pieces to open lines or diagonals.
 
Why Triple Check is Powerful
Forces King Movement: A triple check can't be parried except by moving the king.
Leads to Mating Attacks: Often sets up for checkmate in the next move or two.
Would you like a detailed example or diagram of a triple


 
 
 

RandomChessPlayer62
albadkodra wrote:

In chess, achieving a "triple check" is a rare and dramatic tactic where a single move delivers three simultaneous checks to the opponent's king. Here’s how it works and how you can attempt it in a game:

Key Conditions for a Triple Check
Pieces Involved: At least two pieces (not pawns) and potentially one discovered check by a piece or the queen.
Discovered Check: The move must uncover checks by at least two other pieces.
Steps to Execute or Look for Triple Check
Set up for a Discovered Check:

Position your pieces so moving one will uncover checks from at least two others.
This might involve a combination of a rook, bishop, or queen.
Move the Third Piece to Check:

While uncovering the discovered checks, the piece you move also gives check.
King's Limited Options:

In a triple check, the opponent's king is forced to move since no single block or capture can address three simultaneous checks. https://hitvapps.com/hitv-for-pc/
 
Example Position
Here’s a classic setup for a triple check:

A bishop is on a diagonal targeting the opponent's king.
A rook is on the same rank or file as the king.
A knight moves to check the king while simultaneously uncovering the rook's and bishop's checks.
 
Practical Tips to Use Triple Check
Tactical Vision: Look for discovered check opportunities involving multiple attacking pieces.
Opponent’s Piece Placement: Triple checks are more likely when the opponent's king is exposed.
Sacrifices to Set Up: Be willing to sacrifice pieces to open lines or diagonals.
 
Why Triple Check is Powerful
Forces King Movement: A triple check can't be parried except by moving the king.
Leads to Mating Attacks: Often sets up for checkmate in the next move or two.
Would you like a detailed example or diagram of a triple


 

I'm not even bothering to put it in the detector, I'm just posting the image of a previous one.

RandomChessPlayer62

BRO EVEN LEFT IN THE AI REACHING THE CHARACTER LIMIT

RandomChessPlayer62

Ok, another better proof. For a triple check to occur, there must first be two pieces that have at least one line of sight to the king that meet with eachother once and then meet with eachother again on the king square. It must be the same line of check for both meetings. This requires a straight line to go through another straight line twice because all pieces move in a straight line (even knights and kings! knights move from one center of a square to the next at a 22.5 degree angle, and kings move 1 square at 90 and 45 degree angles), at no angle is this possible. Therefore, triple checks are impossible.

FrancisF14
Triple check?
AdhvaithAjay

If you consider discovered checks by pieces creating a battery multiple checks it would be possible but that's the closest you can get. Following this logic you could have 6 checks but again only if you consider batteries to be multiple checks. ex:

Mzi03

hi

RandomChessPlayer62
AdhvaithAjay wrote:

If you consider discovered checks by pieces creating a battery multiple checks it would be possible but that's the closest you can get. Following this logic you could have 6 checks but again only if you consider batteries to be multiple checks. ex:

I don't consider them so,

each rook blocks the one behind it

AdhvaithAjay
RandomChessPlayer62 wrote:
AdhvaithAjay wrote:

If you consider discovered checks by pieces creating a battery multiple checks it would be possible but that's the closest you can get. Following this logic you could have 6 checks but again only if you consider batteries to be multiple checks. ex:

I don't consider them so,

each rook blocks the one behind it

Makes sense