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Pan_troglodites

I am playing agaist Nelson Bot and it always  plays Scholar's Mate.

What is the defense?

tygxc

Scholar's Mate is bad: it brings the queen into play prematurely and it has to flee with loss of time.

1 e4 e5 2 Qh5 Nc6 3 Bc4 g6 4 Qf3 Nf6

Pan_troglodites

[Event "vs Computer"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2021.10.120"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Pan_troglodites"]
[Black "None"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[TimeControl "-"]
[BlackElo "1200"]
[WhiteElo "1200"]

1 e4 e5 2 Qh5 Nc6 3 Bc4 g6 4 Qf3 Nf6

Pan_troglodites

and at

www.chess.om/gifs I  can create a gif like the one below. Thaks!



Ubik42
Then white plays 5. Qb3

Could it be? Game over? Chess is solved, forced win for white.
Pan_troglodites

Ubik42, my dear, there is no sequence. This is just a tip defense for Scholar's Mate. 

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Hmmm

tygxc

#5
5 Qb3? Nd4 wins for black.

Avery150
NELSON BOT IS PRO
Avery150
But actually i beat him often
Avery150
I try beating sven bot 20 times then i beat nelson bot
Avery150
Actually mateo bot is hard to deafeat
magipi

I honestly think that this whole Nc6-g6-Nf6 defense stinks a bit for black. In my opinion, it is better to grab the initiative early:

1. e4 e5 2. Qh5 Nf6 3. Qxe5+ Be7

This is the Kiddie countergambit. Yes, white wins a pawn, but black gets at least 3, probably 4 tempi for it, which is more than enough compensation. Next move black castles, then opens up the middle with a d5 punch. White has to defend precisely to survive the attack, and Nelson will NOT defend precisely.

Playing this way is also more fun. Attacking feels better than defending, and all chess players are better at it.

tygxc

#13
You can sacrifice the central pawn for some compensation, but objectively it is better to hold on to the central pawn and drive the queen back.
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1971485 

beesmastajoe
Solution: play the Sicilian!
Ubik42
The scholars mate is a good early lesson in chess, going through the punches and counter punches.

But only as a lesson. Beginners, don’t try to play this way. Is not only bad, but the occasional win is not something to be proud of. Any chimpanzee can be trained to do this!
Ubik42
I should clarify I was talking about trying to do scholars mate to someone, not the defense to it.
Pan_troglodites

I am trying to have an answer to defense...:-)

To try to give a Scholar's Mate, try play agains Nelson Bot, here at chess.com.
He always try it. 

Pan_troglodites
Avery150 wrote:
I try beating sven bot 20 times then i beat nelson bot

I can beat Sven Bot, but Nelson Bot, few times. 

And so I am learning...


snoozyman
I beat Nelson Bot only twice. He likes to play Scholars Mate. Just defend with your knights and attack his queen.