Typical rating progression pace? - Chess Forums - Page 2

FforEffort

Jun 23, 2019

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mariners234 wrote:

FforEffort wrote:

mariners234 wrote:

But chess.com daily is different. It's honestly really hard to have a daily rating below 1000 even if you learned chess 1 hour ago... as long you're motivated to do your best to win and have enough intelligence to realize losing pieces is not good.

I've been playing for six months, dropped to the 400s in my first weeks, and only reached 800 a few months ago, where I have plateaued. This is after ~800 games.

Some of us just can't "git gud".

You have 800 games in Rapid, but only a few in Daily.

Most people rated under 1000 in daily play their moves very quickly and don't use the analysis board. That's part of what I mean by motivated to do their best.

Fair enough. And actually yes, that exactly how I've played the handful of daily games I've played. Funny you mention that. I have some wee impulsivity issues.

That said, even when I sit down and try to think ahead or study the post-game analysis, it's still been... hard for me. Strategizing, reading the board, and understanding post-game analysis has been... hard. (Usually I just hope the opponent blunders more than I do)

mariners234

Jun 23, 2019

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FforEffort wrote:

mariners234 wrote:

FforEffort wrote:

mariners234 wrote:

But chess.com daily is different. It's honestly really hard to have a daily rating below 1000 even if you learned chess 1 hour ago... as long you're motivated to do your best to win and have enough intelligence to realize losing pieces is not good.

I've been playing for six months, dropped to the 400s in my first weeks, and only reached 800 a few months ago, where I have plateaued. This is after ~800 games.

Some of us just can't "git gud".

You have 800 games in Rapid, but only a few in Daily.

Most people rated under 1000 in daily play their moves very quickly and don't use the analysis board. That's part of what I mean by motivated to do their best.

Fair enough. And actually yes, that exactly how I've played the handful of daily games I've played. Funny you mention that. I have some wee impulsivity issues.

That said, even when I sit down and try to think ahead or study the post-game analysis, it's still been... hard for me. Strategizing, reading the board, and understanding post-game analysis has been... hard. (Usually I just hope the opponent blunders more than I do)

Yeah, it's tough.

The saving grace is chess is just as hard for our opponents as it is for us

Kraig

Jun 24, 2019

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#23

Savage47 wrote:

mariners234 wrote:

Savage47 wrote:

Typically it takes about 3-4 months for an absolute beginner to reach about the 12-1300 range given good instruction and hard work.

I've never seen a real beginner progress that fast. By real beginner I mean they're not an expert at Shogi or something, and e.g. on January they're learning how the pieces move... by April maybe they're 1000, maybe not.

(Unless we're talking about 1300 in chess.com daily or something)

That's how long it took me and it seems pretty consistent with people I've known and/or taught. Several people in this thread agree.

Honestly, I could probably teach someone everything they need to know to reach 1300 in a few hours. A few basic checkmates and tactics and the rest is just learning how not to screw up too bad.

Not sure I agree that you could teach a beginner to consistently perform at the 1300 level within a few hours from scratch?? Maybe a few months.

I'm just a typical newbie - did not play any board-games before Chess but I would say I've put more effort into "getting good" at chess than your regular joe bloggs. I was 670 in Feb when I started out and have now made it to around the 1340 mark by June. This is my blitz rating (10 minute games) - I dont play daily. It's taken me about 1200 games to get here and I've did about 400 exercises on chess.com (tactics, check mate patterns, end games) too which has definitely helped!

Verbeena

Jun 24, 2019

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KraigUK wrote:

I'm just a typical newbie - did not play any board-games before Chess but I would say I've put more effort into "getting good" at chess than your regular joe bloggs. I was 670 in Feb when I started out and have now made it to around the 1340 mark by June. This is my blitz rating (10 minute games) - I dont play daily. It's taken me about 1200 games to get here and I've did about 400 exercises on chess.com (tactics, check mate patterns, end games) too which has definitely helped!

I've checked your progress rate in blitz and it is quite impressive! From 700 to 1300 in 4 months isn't bad at all! I still struggle to stay above 1100, but i don't play much blitz, most slow otb chess.

michalsen539

Jun 25, 2019

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#25

Took me months to get from 800-1200

Kraig

Jul 25, 2019

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kaukasar wrote:

KraigUK wrote:

I'm just a typical newbie - did not play any board-games before Chess but I would say I've put more effort into "getting good" at chess than your regular joe bloggs. I was 670 in Feb when I started out and have now made it to around the 1340 mark by June. This is my blitz rating (10 minute games) - I dont play daily. It's taken me about 1200 games to get here and I've did about 400 exercises on chess.com (tactics, check mate patterns, end games) too which has definitely helped!

I've checked your progress rate in blitz and it is quite impressive! From 700 to 1300 in 4 months isn't bad at all! I still struggle to stay above 1100, but i don't play much blitz, most slow otb chess.

Thank you. I broke 1400 about a week after that post but I've now plateaued at 1420-1440 for the past full month. I know your progression slows the higher up you get but breaking beyond 1400 has been a bit of a tough one for me so far!

I also think with chess, you'll not improve that much if you just "play" - you need to be absorbing new information that you didnt know previously to progress, whether this comes from analyzing your own games or studying new ideas or tactics. At least that how it feels to me given I've hit a bit of a wall.

oktheniresign

Jul 25, 2019

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FforEffort wrote:

mariners234 wrote:

FforEffort wrote:

mariners234 wrote:

But chess.com daily is different. It's honestly really hard to have a daily rating below 1000 even if you learned chess 1 hour ago... as long you're motivated to do your best to win and have enough intelligence to realize losing pieces is not good.

I've been playing for six months, dropped to the 400s in my first weeks, and only reached 800 a few months ago, where I have plateaued. This is after ~800 games.

Some of us just can't "git gud".

You have 800 games in Rapid, but only a few in Daily.

Most people rated under 1000 in daily play their moves very quickly and don't use the analysis board. That's part of what I mean by motivated to do their best.

Fair enough. And actually yes, that exactly how I've played the handful of daily games I've played. Funny you mention that. I have some wee impulsivity issues.

That said, even when I sit down and try to think ahead or study the post-game analysis, it's still been... hard for me. Strategizing, reading the board, and understanding post-game analysis has been... hard. (Usually I just hope the opponent blunders more than I do) dude if i were you i would forget all about strategy right now and just focus on tactics and not losing pieces and winning my.opponents blundered pieces.

SirMendys

Jul 26, 2019

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I have played for 6 months now, started in January. I'm satisfied with my progress. Soon 1500 in slower time controls. Blitz is harder for me, sometimes I play great and then I hang my queen but still close to 1300 in blitz. I hope for 1800 in rapid/daily within a year. It's my goal at least.

Kraig

Jul 31, 2019

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SirMendys wrote:

I have played for 6 months now, started in January. I'm satisfied with my progress. Soon 1500 in slower time controls. Blitz is harder for me, sometimes I play great and then I hang my queen but still close to 1300 in blitz. I hope for 1800 in rapid/daily within a year. It's my goal at least.

Great progress. It seems that <1000 to 1500 in 6 months is a pretty decent pace so well done. I'm currently stuck at 1400. I've managed to go from 670 to 1400 in 4.5 months, but I'm now at 5.5 months in, and still stuck on the exact same score. Need to learn more to get out of this range! It's tough when you have other commitments.

SirMendys

Jul 31, 2019

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KraigUK skrev:

SirMendys wrote:

I have played for 6 months now, started in January. I'm satisfied with my progress. Soon 1500 in slower time controls. Blitz is harder for me, sometimes I play great and then I hang my queen but still close to 1300 in blitz. I hope for 1800 in rapid/daily within a year. It's my goal at least.

Great progress. It seems that <1000 to 1500 in 6 months is a pretty decent pace so well done. I'm currently stuck at 1400. I've managed to go from 670 to 1400 in 4.5 months, but I'm now at 5.5 months in, and still stuck on the exact same score. Need to learn more to get out of this range! It's tough when you have other commitments.

1400 in 6 months is also good. I think that around 1400 and 1600 you have to start study more about positional strategy. Before that it's mostly finding tactics and stop making blunders. My tactics trainer is on 1950-2000 and it feels decent for my level I think.

Parane

Jul 31, 2019

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#31

That's like asking how long a string is if you cut it from the other end.

beelover9

Jan 20, 2021

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#32

cjxchess17 wrote:

I got to 1200 after 10 months from 0, 1500 in 6 months from 1200. 4yrs later I'm now 2130

How old were you when you started?

beelover9

Jan 24, 2021

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#33

CupEnd wrote:

Well, I hit 800 after 0 years, 0 months, 0 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds, and 0 milliseconds of playing. And then 1000 after about 1 month. And then 1200 after about 1 more month. 1400 in half a month. 1600 in 2 months. And now I'm trying to get to 1700.

Dude, your a literal prodigy, stop flexing on us normies

KeSetoKaiba

Jan 24, 2021

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#34

There isn't really a pace because different people put different amounts of time and effort into chess. Plus, some people learn faster than others. Maybe they are a chess prodigy, but not necessarily. Some people naturally have "slow starts" and then improve a lot while others learn crazy fast at the low levels only to plateau later on. Everyone is different. Rather than looking at a "pace" I'd examine what rating "looks like" in most players and what it took to get there. If you want that rating, then you'll probably have to invest similarly.

If you don't know what a certain "rating" generally takes, then check out my long post explaining it in this thread I commented on before:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/what-do-you-think-is-a-good-rapid-chess-rating?page=3

KeSetoKaiba

Jan 24, 2021

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#35

KeSetoKaiba wrote:

There isn't really a pace because different people put different amounts of time and effort into chess. Plus, some people learn faster than others. Maybe they are a chess prodigy, but not necessarily. Some people naturally have "slow starts" and then improve a lot while others learn crazy fast at the low levels only to plateau later on. Everyone is different. Rather than looking at a "pace" I'd examine what rating "looks like" in most players and what it took to get there. If you want that rating, then you'll probably have to invest similarly.

If you don't know what a certain "rating" generally takes, then check out my long post explaining it in this thread I commented on before:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/what-do-you-think-is-a-good-rapid-chess-rating?page=3

Not my first post: #55 as of right now if you're looking for the really long one.

CM JamesColeman

Jan 24, 2021

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#36

CupEnd wrote:

Well, I hit 800 after 0 years, 0 months, 0 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds, and 0 milliseconds of playing. And then 1000 after about 1 month. And then 1200 after about 1 more month. 1400 in half a month. 1600 in 2 months. And now I'm trying to get to 1700.

Nice job!

jonnin

Jan 24, 2021

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#37

its gonna look like a sigmoid .. bad to decent quickly, stagnant for a fair period, then goes up again slowly.

KingAgo81

Jan 24, 2021

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#38

It really depends on how much time you have to devote to learning the game, and how easily you can retain the patterns. If you have nothing else to do in life, you will be a master at chess up to you ability. It is like any sport or academic achievement: it takes practice and study, and more you do both, the better you will play. This is why sports athletes and academic athletes practice daily for several hours. If it was easy, everyone would do it.

Benji10109

Feb 12, 2021

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#39

Ive been playing for a solid month, playing pretty much every day, and am 750. I started out at 400.

viking55803

Feb 12, 2021

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BK201YI wrote:

I wonder if some people are asking how long it takes to reach a milestone because they want to avoid getting there too fast. I'm not necessarily referring to the OP. To answer the question, I reached 1200 after about eight months. Getting to 1000 was a real struggle, the 200 points after that were just a bonus."

"I only play daily with random black/white, and have stayed between 1200 and 1300 for a long time. I analyze my games and study, but my rating can go up or down when I am trying a new opening or opening line. I really don't care at all about rating. At this level, all of your opponents are capable and the games are competitive and fun - which is really the point isn't it? I've encountered a few cheaters, which is easy in Daily, but I just feel sorry for them. I don't like to lose on blunders but don't make too many when I am not too distracted or lazy. Lately, I'm not giving up too quickly though because I find a stubborn defense and an over-confident opponent will cause THEM to blunder!