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Laskersnephew
ghost_of_pushwood wrote:

Why do you need a "goal"?  I believe having fun and learning on a day-to-day basis is sufficient unto itself.

Well, having fun is an excellent goal in itself, but there is also the joy of mastering new things. Whether it's playing chess, or playing a musical instrument, or learning a new language, most of us like to feel that we're getting better. That's part of the fun. 

It's good to remember that your ELO rating is a trailing indicator of you chess level. You get better and then your ELO goes up, not the other way around

 

ChessJustice19

I mean i have been playing for 3 years and am 2100 plus,we could play sometime if you would like,just add me as a friend,or post on my wall

Fratsenmaker

After 40 years playing chess I am rated 1360 for rapid on this site.

What can I expect more? happy.png

Luckily I play once in two weeks in a small chess club wich is a lot of fun.

Lol good luck!

PetecantbeatmeSLFL

I was rated about 900 and was A little annoyed because I could only change my name once so I deleted my profile so I could have this name and was started at 1200 and have been managing to stay above 1100. I'm not recommending that because I don't understand it but it worked for me

ChessJustice19

You could have requested for a name change,the staff here would be happy to have assisted you with your issue.

PetecantbeatmeSLFL

Really? I dint know that I thought I could only change it once. Just the same mine may have gotten vetoed. It's political. And I'm happy I did because of the rating thing

Jjenna81

The learning age is not important. You are doing Great!!! i am new to this app/site. For the goals= winning games, having a strong opening move, not making stupid mistakes, finishing strong. Good Luck

BK201YI
DeirdreSkye wrote:
andrewnox wrote:

A Grandmaster told me that he believes with hard work, any player could reach Candidate Master level, probably even FIDE Master. Any higher probably requires some natural talent and youth. Of course, we're talking about a lot of hard work and determination, but it is possible.

         The GM told you that but he didn't really explained you what "determination" means.      

      For starters it requires doing nothing else except playing and studying chess. That in turn requires 2 very important things. First , infinite amount of money that will allow you to travel and play in tournaments all year  and second you must accept that yu will have no life since you must only live and breath chess.I have no idea why someone that has so much money would put himself in such torture.

       So the GM is both right and wrong. Theoretically he is right but practically , no one can really afford to sacrifice so much. 

      

I can. For me, it's either time devoted to chess or time devoted to staring at the ceiling all day or whatever, for the rest of my life. I could solve crossword puzzles instead but I've quickly gotten bored of those. I'll play chess for as long as it will keep me interested. For a long time, hopefully. 

Laskersnephew

" First , infinite amount of money that will allow you to travel and play in tournaments all year "

If you live in any large metropolitan area, this is completely untrue. In Central New Jersey, where I live, I could easily play 12 rated games a week at fairly small expense, although the pace would probably kill me!. No need to travel the world, or even the country. If you live in or near New York City, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Boston, or Chicago, for example, you will find plenty of tournament opportunities. 

WSama

Congratulations on your progress. I share some tips and strategy in most of my recent blogs. Check them out in your spare time.

 

 

Laskersnephew

I know we are uniquely blessed with chess opportunities in my area, but between New Jersey, New York City, and Philadelphia, I could easily play in two quads (6 rated games) every week and 4 or five open tournaments in a year. 250 rated games in a year wouldn't be at all difficult. Assuming I was continuously improving (big assumption!) my rating would go up quite quickly. But the OP is actually from France, and I don't know which part of France, so I have no idea what his playing opportunities are. And, of course, he didn't ask about becoming a FIDE Master, just about what kind of improvement he could lexpect

BubbaCox0

Good lord, i'm way behind on this.  At 55yo and living in the middle of Alaska, there won't be a lot of opportunity for me.  That said, i have always enjoyed the game poorly, never went beyond plying it as a glorified game of checkers.  But now, i see the potential in my grand kids, and the fun to be had with them.  AND, they will have many more opportunities at their ages than I will, so I'll learn with them and see how far they can go.  A little depressing to realize I'll be watching instead of participating like i did in my 20-40's but fun none the less.

andrewnox

It may be easier, and faster, with a lot of money, but it isn't completely necessary. 

kindaspongey

"... On the one hand, your play needs to be purposeful much of the time; the ability to navigate through many different types of positions needs to be yours; your ability to calculate variations and find candidate moves needs to be present in at least an embryonic stage. On the other hand, it will be heart-warming and perhaps inspiring to realize that you do not need to give up blunders or misconceptions or a poor memory or sloppy calculating habits; that you do not need to know all the latest opening variations, or even know what they are called. You do not have to memorize hundreds of endgame positions or instantly recognize the proper procedure in a variety of pawn structures.
[To play at a master level consistently] is not an easy task, to be sure ..., but it is a possible one. ..." - NM Peter Kurzdorfer (2015)

ZappiestTom

Allebonx wrote:

Hello happy.png

I started chess very late at 32 coaches.png about 10 months ago. I started from scratch, at the point I had to learn "en passant" and the very basics of the game. In about 8 months of serious practice every day I went from 900 to 1300 chess.com Elo (at peak), then took a brake about 2 months and now  struggling to come back over 1200. 

I do not believe being particularly gifted for the game but need some guidance on where to put my goal. What kind of Elo should I except and aim for about the end of the year, a year after etc... 

It seams that the easiest part of progress is behind me and it apparently do not help to start as an adult. I can expect practice about 10 hours a week, playing, analysing, tactic and some online lessons diamond.png when I have time. 

I have no clue about the average performance over the years of adult beginners like me who practice regularly. Should I expect a year of stagnation  or is it possible to steadily gain 100 elo/year on the first years lessons.png ? 

(I know the Elo is not the goal here, but it reflect what I mean by that, playing and understanding better the game thumbup.png)

Cheers

honestly, I'm a great believer in practice makes perfect. just keep playing and learn from your mistakes. if having a goal of 1500 elo is your key go for it. hell I'll give you a game if you fancy.