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PUZZLE in the CASTLE: "Bring down the queen to me"

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bendcat

I analyze this game, bendcat(me) vs comp the white at this point is winning, two possible first attack can make a huge win for white. At this point we are looking for "Bring down the queen to me" White King said. 

 

erik
pretty good! but i'm not sure he is forced to take the Rook on e1...
Fromper

From the starting position, why not just play the classic "Greek gift" bishop sacrifice? ie 1. Bxh7+ Kxh7 2. Ng5+ Kg8 3. Qh5 Re8 4. Qh7+ Kf8 5. Qh8#

 

That 5 move mate isn't forced, but black loses material stopping it. For instance, after 2. Ng5+ Qxg5 3. Bxg5, white has won the queen for two pieces. Or if 1. Bxh7+ Kh8 instead of taking the bishop, then Ng5 anyway, with Qh5 next to mate soon afterwards.

 

After the knight check, the black king can come forward to g6 instead of retreating to g8, but white's got too many pieces aimed at the king side. I can't see the king getting away for very long. ie 1. Bxh7+ Kxh7 2. Ng5+ Kg6 3. Qg4, and no good defense for black jumps out at me.

 

--Fromper

bendcat
Fromper wrote:

From the starting position, why not just play the classic "Greek gift" bishop sacrifice? ie 1. Bxh7+ Kxh7 2. Ng5+ Kg8 3. Qh5 Re8 4. Qh7+ Kf8 5. Qh8#

 

That 5 move mate isn't forced, but black loses material stopping it. For instance, after 2. Ng5+ Qxg5 3. Bxg5, white has won the queen for two pieces. Or if 1. Bxh7+ Kh8 instead of taking the bishop, then Ng5 anyway, with Qh5 next to mate soon afterwards.

 

After the knight check, the black king can come forward to g6 instead of retreating to g8, but white's got too many pieces aimed at the king side. I can't see the king getting away for very long. ie 1. Bxh7+ Kxh7 2. Ng5+ Kg6 3. Qg4, and no good defense for black jumps out at me.

 

--Fromper


 I have post the other varation of this the same position against computer.

 

At this point we are looking for the other varation where the request is to bring down the queen. 

lotus_elise

why not king h8 no 4 move:I