The perfect game of chess.
If both players played perfectly, white would always win because theyre always one move ahead of black.
If both players played perfectly, white would always win because theyre always one move ahead of black.
Not true. Until we see chess solved we'll probably never know if this is the case but most people agree that with perfect play a chess game is always drawn.
I still think it'd be much more fun if the initial position turns out to be a zugzwang position so that with perfect play black always win.
Never heard of such a thing. What is this "perfect game" you speak of. Let's not hear of such nonsense :-)
neneko wrote: If they ever solve chess it would be fun if the starting position turns out to be a zugzwang position (not very likely but hey, you never know)
"Interesting game: the only winning move is not to play."
It's impossible. There are so many openings and combinations that there cannot be just ONE that is better than another. Only after the very first move is can the perfect game defined...but to calculate perfection, then there must be a perfect standard set...and I am assuming that it should be a time restriction. SO...given a time restriction after the first move, there's a limited number of combinations that can be done in order to preform a checkmate...and I suppose that the victor should also be chosen before hand (remember, in order for something to be Perfect, it must meet predifined standard of perfection). THEREFORE. An example of an expectation would be: 5 minutes, 1.c4, black wins. Aha! A game that can conform to these standards would be considered the perfect game.
wow...now I am as well in the search for it! I got way too into this.
a true perfect game would mean that for every atack that white has, there is an equally good defense. even if that defense is a counterattack. at some point there would have to be a trade of pieces and that would be it. two kings in the center with no one around
How can the perfect result be a draw ? What has been achieved ?
If you're willing to settle for a draw then that's OK, but surely the perfect game needs to have a better result then a draw !
So in my personal opinion a perfect game has to be one sided because the victor has played a perfect game while the loser has not !
According to wikipedia The 6 piece tablebase was completed in 2006 and the 7 piece table base may be completed by 2015 (wiki gives this reference).
If we have a lot of faith in the people who work on these things and are very generous to them, let's say the time it takes to calculate each tablebase is three times as long as the previous one and the 7 piece one takes 5 years. Then the 8 piece one would take 15 years, 9 pieces would take 45 etc. Then it would take 5*3^25 + 5*3^24 + ... + 5*3 = 6,354,664,570,815 years to calculate 8 through 32. That's more than 400 times longer than the universe has existed. So, don't hold your breath.
I was bored for a while today, and somewhere in my crazy train of thought carried me to think: What would a perfect game of chess be like? Would black defend or counterattack? Would the sides be used to get major pieces into battle? Would tou finachetto your bishop?
Thoughts?