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2 brilliant (!!) moves in the same game

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PawnToBthree

I think I've never had a brilliant move before (In the games I've analyzed so far) and here I had to in 2 the same game : 

https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/6441078127?tab=report

If someone could explain to me the "brilliancy" in these moves would be great, especially 25.Nc3  where I just saved my knight from a certain death wink.png

Anyway so sad I managed to blunder despite all my brilliancy sad.png

 
psychohist

Especially weird since the evaluation does not change much when you play the "briliant" moves.

PawnToBthree
psychohist a écrit :

Especially weird since the evaluation does not change much when you play the "briliant" moves.

 

I think the evaluation isn't supposed to change if you play the best move. On my end I don't see it changing after playing these moves.

psychohist

The evaluation shouldn't change if you play the best move and the computer foresaw that move.  I thought "brilliant" meant so good even the computer didn't see the move, in which case it should change the evaluation, I would think.

ChessDude009

wow

ryanovster

I dont see why knight to  e 5 would be considered brilliant i think most people woudl have seen that opportunity.  but hey whatever the computer thinks is brilliant lol who are we mere mortals to argue, unless there was a follow up to that move that no one could have possibly seen.

Optimissed

No, it wasn't a brilliant move, you're right. Just a natural move. I wonder who they pay to write these programs.

ryanovster

i should have 1500 brilliant moves by now if thats brilliant lol

Misplle

Yeah, same here. Also, I didn't find Brilliant Move number 2.

ryanovster

still isnt brilliant though its a good move but brilliant hell no lol

PawnToBthree

Wait what happened? The analysis is not the same now it only shows 1 "brilliant" move and its not even one that was showed in yesterday's analysis !

Bing55
psychohist wrote:

The evaluation shouldn't change if you play the best move and the computer foresaw that move.  I thought "brilliant" meant so good even the computer didn't see the move, in which case it should change the evaluation, I would think.

A brilliant move in the computer analysis means a move that the engine does not consider best at a low depth, but it realizes that it's the best move at the depth you have selected. For example, if you set the depth to 18, a brilliant move will be considered a move that the engine evaluates as not best at d<=17 (17 is just an example, I don't know where the cutoff is), but it realizes that it's best at d=18. If you analyse the same game at a higher depth, a move that was marked as an inacuracy at d=18 may be marked as a brilliancy at d=30. This means that a lot of the time, moves that are considered brilliances might be very easy to see for a human, it's just that the computer needs a higher depth to correctly evaluate them.

Optimissed

ie one move further than the engine's horizon.

talliholic

I don't know why, but there is only 1 brilliant move in my analysis and the one that appeared (Ne5) is not really hard to find because it attacks the queen and centralizes the knight so...

Moonwarrior_1

Huh

ukrainiandude

thats cool

*eats frozen child*

WBFISHER

Congrats PawnToBthree, I've played hundreds of bot games looking for the elusive brilliant move.  I didn't think it was possible.

PawnToBthree
talliholic a écrit :

I don't know why, but there is only 1 brilliant move in my analysis and the one that appeared (Ne5) is not really hard to find because it attacks the queen and centralizes the knight so...

 

Yep I don't know why the analysis changed completely frustrated.png

 

But with this analysis showing an extra brilliant move, can we now say that I had 3 brilliant moves in the same game? That must be a new record, I hope chess.com has a special prize for me grin.png

PaulSharks

Worst Brilliant moves I have ever seen

Immaculate_Slayer

They were not brilliant at all.
Chess.com's stockfish evaluation on how good a move is sucks, honestly.

It may affirm that a genial sacrifice made by a super GM is a blunder while considering so common things such as capturing a piece or returning an attacked knight brilliant.