chess engine on Mac unbeatable?

lol I have a mac, you mean that preinstalled chess app?

I haven't beaten it either.

But it might be because i dont feel the need to try to beat it.

It's definitely not unbeatable, though.

2000 bots on chess.com are WAY below 2000 level. It's kind of a joke how overrated all the chess.com bots are.

I was talking to some guy about them, and decided I should try a few games. First try I beat the 2300 bot as black. So I thought I'd try the Danny bot (which was 2500 IIRC) and embarrassingly I drew from a completely winning position. Again first try. These bots were probably around an 1800 player (?)

(Although it's hard to assign a rating since they sometimes make incredibly stupid blunders followed by master level tactics)

I played the mac computer like... 8 years ago. The strongest setting is GM level IIRC. I don't know about the easiest setting. But anyway, it was a "real" engine in the sense that, yeah, it's hard. It's not the baby engine stuff they expose people to on this website.

The Mac app is so strong because it doesn't have real difficulty settings. It plays at its full strength with the only handicap being either assigned max depth or max thinking time, depending on setting. I tried having it play against the AI on the other site and it had no issue crushing 2000+ rated difficulties on just the "thinks 3 moves ahead" setting. Probably for good reason, ever tried playing against Stockfish even on just depth 6?

I seriously think that the Mac app could beat top level players, which is expected for an AI, except that it doesn't have any difficulty settings. It's like the app is not actually meant for humans.

I have not seen a solution to the bug that made the computer invincible no matter what the difficulty. SteelieMD, the computer lacking real difficulty settings is not the reason to why the macOS Chess app is so strong. The main reason is because there was a bug on the application when it was updated to Big Sur. This issue never happened until Apple updated their computers to Big Sur.

macOS Chess takes up to a minute to think making the computer impossible to beat when I first started playing it. I tried playing it on the easiest setting, and the hints are pretty much useless, because the computer just wants to win.

People have been saying that the macOS Chess app was beatable on an Intel MacBook running the older versions of macOS compared to an Apple Silicon MacBook running macOS Big Sur.

The macOS Chess app is not unbeatable though even though the bug issue with the difficulty has not been fixed yet.

There were 3 bugged achievements on Apple Chess, and they were not named in the Game Center. I am very sure that the bug where the computer is invincible no matter what the difficulty level is not the only bug in the program. A small percentage of players who earned those three bugged achievements were probably testers who worked for Apple.

The hint system on macOS Chess apps do need a lot of improvement to begin with. The computer apparently gives random hints out of nowhere and most of those hints are usually blunder moves. The hints that the computer gives needs to pertain to the skill level the computer is set to play at.

The most recent update of macOS Chess was just a visual update where the pieces were no longer created using polygon modeling. This update does not focus on any bug fixes on the application. I am expecting Apple to fix the bug where the computer is invincible no matter the setting, in addition to many other bugs as well.

@sndeww, @SteelieMD Any comments about the macOS Chess application?