Do you see chess in your sleep
I once spent all night calculating variations for a daily game I was playing. I had blundered before I went to bed and couldn't help going through it, trying to save the game, in my sleep.
Yes. I do both chess analyzing in my head before I sleep and chess dreaming. I was concerned but it seems like many people in the chess community do so. I played 13 rapid games of 30-minute time control in a day once, and as a result, I saw my first chess dream. I was lucid dreaming all night. I sleep next to a chessboard and that also affects my sleep thoughts.
To be honest, I don't think I play the game itself. Once it is a dream, all I see is a fade chessboard, and I have the slighest of the impressions of what I'm really playing. I think though that my brain is used to calculating when it faces a chess game, and that's why I spend time calculating.
Each game evolves, but I'm sure it never ends. Maybe because it is a draw but I can't remember.
I remember one of my games, which entirely did consist of queenless late-middlegame. I was trying to improve my position using fade impressions of knights and a fianchetto bishop winning pawns, and I really suffered because my opponent played all the best moves. Or I thought so. I woke up many times that night to drink some water and relax because I was ready to cry, and I suffered, sighed, and murmured all night. Indeed that day I had a pretty traumatizing experience due to my mental disorder, or phobia, whatever, it's called gamophobia, and that's why this game was so painful to me. Dreams depict reality. I play chess and I suffer. Perfect combination.
About chess analyzing before sleep, I identify with your thoughts. I actually see tactics or mating patterns. The thing is I see a different thing repeated and repeated each time. If I see bank rank mate once, I'll see that for the rest of the time I try to sleep. Continuously. If I see the following day a tactic to win a bishop for example, I can't take it off my mind, and I'll see that for the rest of time I don't sleep. Again and again. My mind stucks and prevents me from sleeping.
I really want to consult an expert such as a therapist, just to learn if it's healthy, or I need any medication, or even abandon chess, which I won't, because I love it. But, it prevents me from sleeping well as I calculate and spend the same energy I would spend in a real match. My brain thinks even when it sleeps. And that tires me a lot.
Also I wanna know if gms dream chess too.
Not that i can recall. I rarely remember any type of dream though. I lay down, i fall asleep, and i awaken at nearly the same time each morning.
I've always been a lucid dreamer but my dreams basically start off seemingly logical and devolves into chaos to the point that it is frustrating and legit makes me mad enough to wake up sometimes and be mad for a good while about it.
For example, I'll have a position in my head that is chess and then as time goes on, I notice from a third-person sense (hard to explain) that the game somehow turned to checkers. I'll say to myself "That doesn't make any sense. I know I was just playing chess not too long ago and that the game hadn't ended yet. I'll get up and try to leave just to basically time warp back to the chess position that i had previously been dreaming about. I'll have some good thoughts about the position from a third-person view and then first-person plays a bad move for seemingly no reason. I'll then act surprised as if the person in the dream didn't realize the mistake and have all the same emotions as if I actually had it happen to me in real life. I can feel my blood-pressure rise, etc... and have the added bonus of the anger from none of it making any sense. I basically spectate myself in every lucid dream I have and let me tell you.... it's painful.
Or my dream will just be the earth turns to chess squares while I'm walking or other weird stuff but that doesn't bother me as much as that enters a realm that isn't realistic which is fine. The realistic dreams need to make sense in some way or I go insane.
A gas station being where I know a car dealership is. Not okay. Me getting out of my vehicle and stealing my friends car for no reason. Not okay. My work location changing to a different state is also not okay.
Can anyone relate to this? LOL
Dreaming from a third-person (almost like a narrator) and first-person practically simultaneously? Super weird. I am also quite attune to my real-life surroundings while dreaming and have even continued dreaming while opening my eyes for short periods of time. It's like a movie keeps playing and if the third-person wants to zone out then I can but when I start paying attention it really is the same sensation as if I missed a small part of the movie and it kept playing.
It also has come to a shock to me how many people never lucid dream. I always thought that everyone did it when I was young and learned that wasn't the case at all. In fact, it actually scares people to lucid dream.
But by far, the craziest thing for me about lucid dreaming is being able to argue with someone in my dream and for them to say something that absolutely shocks me on all levels. I don't get how that phenomenon can even happen. My brain came up with it. How does it shock me like that? From a third-person sense I have even wanted to wake myself up and write what they said down before because it was so good. That in itself is a crazy phenomenon to me too.
Sorry to derail this thread but I've been thinking about my lucid dreaming more and more lately. People have recommended that I go get a sleep study done because there might be something wrong with me. The stress from dreaming can be very real though. To that much I can attest.
Yes. I do both chess analyzing in my head before I sleep and chess dreaming. I was concerned but it seems like many people in the chess community do so. I played 13 rapid games of 30-minute time control in a day once, and as a result, I saw my first chess dream. I was lucid dreaming all night. I sleep next to a chessboard and that also affects my sleep thoughts.
To be honest, I don't think I play the game itself. Once it is a dream, all I see is a fade chessboard, and I have the slighest of the impressions of what I'm really playing. I think though that my brain is used to calculating when it faces a chess game, and that's why I spend time calculating.
Each game evolves, but I'm sure it never ends. Maybe because it is a draw but I can't remember.
I remember one of my games, which entirely did consist of queenless late-middlegame. I was trying to improve my position using fade impressions of knights and a fianchetto bishop winning pawns, and I really suffered because my opponent played all the best moves. Or I thought so. I woke up many times that night to drink some water and relax because I was ready to cry, and I suffered, sighed, and murmured all night. Indeed that day I had a pretty traumatizing experience due to my mental disorder, or phobia, whatever, it's called gamophobia, and that's why this game was so painful to me. Dreams depict reality. I play chess and I suffer. Perfect combination.
About chess analyzing before sleep, I identify with your thoughts. I actually see tactics or mating patterns. The thing is I see a different thing repeated and repeated each time. If I see bank rank mate once, I'll see that for the rest of the time I try to sleep. Continuously. If I see the following day a tactic to win a bishop for example, I can't take it off my mind, and I'll see that for the rest of time I don't sleep. Again and again. My mind stucks and prevents me from sleeping.
I really want to consult an expert such as a therapist, just to learn if it's healthy, or I need any medication, or even abandon chess, which I won't, because I love it. But, it prevents me from sleeping well as I calculate and spend the same energy I would spend in a real match. My brain thinks even when it sleeps. And that tires me a lot.
Also I wanna know if gms dream chess too.
I've had the same scenarios as you describe happen to me too. The difference is the feeling of your mind being stuck. I don't have that particular feeling. If I really didn't want to dream about chess at that time, then I could change it to something else. I can take control if I need to while lucid dreaming and have done so on rare occasions. I just think it is more enjoyable to let myself dream naturally.
The occasions where I change my dream are usually when there are sensations of pain being applied by my brain. There was one dream where I jumped once and couldn't stop. Each jump I got higher and higher. My feet started to hurt and the feeling in my stomach and not being able to breathe properly on the descent was getting very annoying. When I jumped over the Emperor State Building i was like "Yep, I'm done. This is going to kill me. Let's dream of something else." and I did.
This is weird, I do the exact same thing! Are there any specific pieces that you tend to use? I do bishops when I'm in my bed, but I use rooks normally. Crazy.
I've found the best move in a Daily game in my sleep, before.
I guess that gives meaning to the phrase "I could beat you in my sleep!"
All of you idiots are obsessed with chess.
Do people argue in their sleep as well?
I've never seen chess in my dreams before.
Do you send fiend requests in your sleep?
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-com-community/pls-66866243
Yes. I do both chess analyzing in my head before I sleep and chess dreaming. I was concerned but it seems like many people in the chess community do so. I played 13 rapid games of 30-minute time control in a day once, and as a result, I saw my first chess dream. I was lucid dreaming all night. I sleep next to a chessboard and that also affects my sleep thoughts.
To be honest, I don't think I play the game itself. Once it is a dream, all I see is a fade chessboard, and I have the slighest of the impressions of what I'm really playing. I think though that my brain is used to calculating when it faces a chess game, and that's why I spend time calculating.
Each game evolves, but I'm sure it never ends. Maybe because it is a draw but I can't remember.
I remember one of my games, which entirely did consist of queenless late-middlegame. I was trying to improve my position using fade impressions of knights and a fianchetto bishop winning pawns, and I really suffered because my opponent played all the best moves. Or I thought so. I woke up many times that night to drink some water and relax because I was ready to cry, and I suffered, sighed, and murmured all night. Indeed that day I had a pretty traumatizing experience due to my mental disorder, or phobia, whatever, it's called gamophobia, and that's why this game was so painful to me. Dreams depict reality. I play chess and I suffer. Perfect combination.
About chess analyzing before sleep, I identify with your thoughts. I actually see tactics or mating patterns. The thing is I see a different thing repeated and repeated each time. If I see bank rank mate once, I'll see that for the rest of the time I try to sleep. Continuously. If I see the following day a tactic to win a bishop for example, I can't take it off my mind, and I'll see that for the rest of time I don't sleep. Again and again. My mind stucks and prevents me from sleeping.
I really want to consult an expert such as a therapist, just to learn if it's healthy, or I need any medication, or even abandon chess, which I won't, because I love it. But, it prevents me from sleeping well as I calculate and spend the same energy I would spend in a real match. My brain thinks even when it sleeps. And that tires me a lot.
Also I wanna know if gms dream chess too.
I've had the same scenarios as you describe happen to me too. The difference is the feeling of your mind being stuck. I don't have that particular feeling. If I really didn't want to dream about chess at that time, then I could change it to something else. I can take control if I need to while lucid dreaming and have done so on rare occasions. I just think it is more enjoyable to let myself dream naturally.
The occasions where I change my dream are usually when there are sensations of pain being applied by my brain. There was one dream where I jumped once and couldn't stop. Each jump I got higher and higher. My feet started to hurt and the feeling in my stomach and not being able to breathe properly on the descent was getting very annoying. When I jumped over the Emperor State Building i was like "Yep, I'm done. This is going to kill me. Let's dream of something else." and I did.
Wish I could do that😂.
I've always been a lucid dreamer but my dreams basically start off seemingly logical and devolves into chaos to the point that it is frustrating and legit makes me mad enough to wake up sometimes and be mad for a good while about it.
For example, I'll have a position in my head that is chess and then as time goes on, I notice from a third-person sense (hard to explain) that the game somehow turned to checkers. I'll say to myself "That doesn't make any sense. I know I was just playing chess not too long ago and that the game hadn't ended yet. I'll get up and try to leave just to basically time warp back to the chess position that i had previously been dreaming about. I'll have some good thoughts about the position from a third-person view and then first-person plays a bad move for seemingly no reason. I'll then act surprised as if the person in the dream didn't realize the mistake and have all the same emotions as if I actually had it happen to me in real life. I can feel my blood-pressure rise, etc... and have the added bonus of the anger from none of it making any sense. I basically spectate myself in every lucid dream I have and let me tell you.... it's painful.
Or my dream will just be the earth turns to chess squares while I'm walking or other weird stuff but that doesn't bother me as much as that enters a realm that isn't realistic which is fine. The realistic dreams need to make sense in some way or I go insane.
A gas station being where I know a car dealership is. Not okay. Me getting out of my vehicle and stealing my friends car for no reason. Not okay. My work location changing to a different state is also not okay.
Can anyone relate to this? LOL
Dreaming from a third-person (almost like a narrator) and first-person practically simultaneously? Super weird. I am also quite attune to my real-life surroundings while dreaming and have even continued dreaming while opening my eyes for short periods of time. It's like a movie keeps playing and if the third-person wants to zone out then I can but when I start paying attention it really is the same sensation as if I missed a small part of the movie and it kept playing.
It also has come to a shock to me how many people never lucid dream. I always thought that everyone did it when I was young and learned that wasn't the case at all. In fact, it actually scares people to lucid dream.
But by far, the craziest thing for me about lucid dreaming is being able to argue with someone in my dream and for them to say something that absolutely shocks me on all levels. I don't get how that phenomenon can even happen. My brain came up with it. How does it shock me like that? From a third-person sense I have even wanted to wake myself up and write what they said down before because it was so good. That in itself is a crazy phenomenon to me too.
Sorry to derail this thread but I've been thinking about my lucid dreaming more and more lately. People have recommended that I go get a sleep study done because there might be something wrong with me. The stress from dreaming can be very real though. To that much I can attest.
You, are certainly a lucid dreamer master. You seem to control your dreams at the top level. What I mean is that you definitely not always make up your dreams, but you're a logic person and you get mad if your dreams do not depict reality. Which is amazing.
Personally, I can't do that with chess. I choose what's going to happen in my dreams deliberately each morning. It's like writing a scenario for a movie. But chess, I calculate, and play moves, and it's not me who decides what moves my opponent makes, it's my brain,I don't know if you get it. And while my dreams don't make sense at all, I don't get mad, and I just try to sleep. Chess dreams though make sense and are totally tiring.
Really? People are afraid of lucid dreaming? I can't understand that. It sounds crazy. But of course, each human brain thinks in a totally different way.
That shock occurs to me too😂. I give an answer to an argument for my opponent which totally shocks me. I don't know how that works, but brains can remember 20 moves of chess theory, couldn't they surprise themselves in a dream?
Also I want to note something else to about lucid dreaming. I can wake up for some minutes and then return back, think of what I was dreaming, and then continue the plot. Also, if I get to decide to wake up, I continue to think about the dream, and continue the plot, totally awake, with eyes wide-open. It's definetaly not lucid dreaming, but something like fake scenarios, but it's a thing.
i've been playing chess for 2 years now and i have never seen chess in my dream lol