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How much time do a normal person needs to go from 1200 to 2000 +

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waelkdchess

if i dont read and study chess tactics , just by playing

kindaspongey

I think the vast majority of chess players never get to 2000 +, regardless of whether or not they read and study chess tactics.

Verbeena

2 years, 7 months and 3,5 weeks, obviously!

Kestony

It's nearly impossible without studying. There are so many active users that have played tens thousands of games and they still are at the level of 1000-1500. With studying on average I would say 4-7 years. Recently I had a discussion with 2 GMs, both agreed that getting from 2400 to 2500 is harder than getting from 0 to 2400 haha. The higher you get the harder to climb.

SmithyQ

This reminds me of a quote I once heard.  To paraphrase,

 

Q: How long does it take the average person to become a chess master?

A: The average person doesn't become a chess master.

 

The idea, of course, is that you have to go well above and beyond to achieve high results in chess, and this is true for most any discipline.

Rat1960

2200 CM ; 2300 FM ; 2400 IM ; 2500 GM ; 2700 SGM (47)
Each of those are mountains. I was about 1900 at thirteen but putting on 300 was way over my ceiling.
I kept taking a year off here and there (exams etc) which quite frankly unless you are a Fischer costs 200 ELO points each time. So it took me a decade to net put on 200 ELO points. Then I stopped playing, better things to do with my young life.
It would not surprise me now at nearly 60 that I am down to 1500 or lower if I were to try to play with tinnitus. 

Just by playing [OP], no chance of magically getting stronger. Consider the Lucena / Philidor positions, way better to have *studied* them rather than try and fail (blowing half a point) over the board for the first time.

Rocky64

A normal person would never reach 2000. To reach this level, you'd need to be abnormally talented AND willing to put in the hard work and study all aspects of the game. In chess as in other complex activities, you need both talent and hard work to become an "expert"; you won't get very far with just one of these things..

SteamGear
waelkdchess wrote:

if i dont read and study chess tactics , just by playing

Depends how much you play, and how much effort you put into learning from your mistakes.

Either way, if you don't read or work on your tactics, the path to 2000 will be much slower.

Realistically, with study, it should take a few years. Without any sort of study, it could very likely stretch longer than a decade.

MICHAELSIEDNER
About one intense week
ESP-918

5-7 years

kindaspongey
Rocky64 wrote:

... In chess as in other complex activities, you need both talent and hard work to become an "expert"; ...

And I would think that the rate of progress would depend on the talent and work involved.

MICHAELSIEDNER
Americans are Idiots.look at their president
josephyossi

If you just play then you will probably get there in 3-6 years. sorry to burst your bubble

GMAbhishekpodishetty

minimum 5 years

ESP-918

GMAbhishekpodishetty wrote:

minimum 5 years

I agree

waelkdchess

alright everyone thank you for the feedback , appreciated

godsofhell1235

A normal person doesn't reach 2000.

Just saying.

But if you decided to study every day. And actually work at it, not just BS like most of us do.

If you actually work, then at least a few years. Plan on about 5 years.

godsofhell1235
kaukasar wrote:

2 years, 7 months and 3,5 weeks, obviously!

As I recall it took both Kasparov and Karpov about 2 years to go from beginner to 2000.

Back then they didn't call it 2000 though. It was called first category player.

You were essentially unrated until 2200.

torrubirubi
I think it depends how much money do you have. There are some titled players that will let you draw or even win if you pay enough. I heard that in Russia whole tournaments were faked to allow some players to get their GM norms.

But if you want to improve only by playing you need a lot of talent to get 1600 or 1700. 2000? No way!
SteamGear
godsofhell1235 wrote:

As I recall it took both Kasparov and Karpov about 2 years to go from beginner to 2000.

Though, they both had a lot of chess training to help them along the way.

It'd be near impossible to reach 2000 in 2 years from just playing alone (as the OP wants to), without any sort of guidance or instruction.