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Gruber86 wrote:

If chess never existed J K Rowling would have included a game of draughts (checkers) in the philosophers stone book

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gambitattax

Gruber86 wrote:

If chess never existed J K Rowling would have included a game of draughts (checkers) in the philosophers stone book

This thread is interesting!

gambitattax

If a butterfly can change the world (according to you guys), then imagine the amount of change a single human can bring to this world. Good motivation!

gambitattax

aalv wrote:

What do you think the world would be like? How would it change the course of history?

This is so hard to answer. One thing is for sure, there can never be a perfect answer for this question. I would say that "Life goes on". Whether chess exists or not, life goes on bro and certainly time does not stop. So obviously it wouldn't cause much of a difference to the history of this world.

aalv
Darshan_Haragi_L wrote:
aalv wrote:

What do you think the world would be like? How would it change the course of history?

This is so hard to answer. One thing is for sure, there can never be a perfect answer for this question. I would say that "Life goes on". Whether chess exists or not, life goes on bro and certainly time does not stop. So obviously it wouldn't cause much of a difference to the history of this world.

Life may go on, but people who were. Supposed to exist wouldn't and people who were never supposed to exist, would. This in itself is a huge difference to the world

HazelStone11

Chess is amazing

gambitattax

stewardjandstewardj wrote:

IainLim wrote:
You talk as if scientific theories are 100% correct. Believe it or not plenty of previously-supported scientific theories have been proven wrong in the past. Theories can be "well-substantiated" and "confirmed" through observations, but that doesn't mean it's true for sure. The theory of evolution could be an exception as there is plenty of obvious facts to account for it, but there isn't any way as far as I know for you to prove that a butterfly flapping its wings could contribute to different weather a thousand miles away! It's just a concept, an idea, an attempt to explain apparent randomness in nature.

There is plenty of proof. The only proof needed is logic (although weather could count as proof too). You just aren't thinking hard enough.

Your first thought is, "How can a butterfly change the weather on the other side of the world? More so, how can a butterfly change the history of the Earth?" However, the question that is more logical is, "How would a butterfly NOT change the course of the world after thousands of years have passed?"

It is obvious that a butterfly does not change the course of the world in a few days. It can not change any course of actions by flying from one spot to another immediately (except for the rare occasion, such as a driver getting distracted by the butterfly, and consequentially running into a gas station, in which explodes, killing dozens of people and causing massive damage)

I doubt that a butterfly can even change the weather after a few days have passed. However, the atoms that have been moved will change the atmosphere around it slightly. This change will spread, although a slight change. However, this slight change will make another slight change, and the change will keep spreading. The change made will keep spreading throughout the atmosphere, and will become bigger and bigger, changing slightly faster. Eventually, other courses of action will change, such as bugs, plants, and bacteria dying or living due to these slight changes. This will cause bigger changes, and this will spread changes even further. Bigger and bigger changes might occur, such as animals dying, lightning striking a good distance away from where it would have stricken, rain falling in a slightly different place. This will cause even bigger changes. This can cause the landscape to slightly change and will start having a greater probability of significantly changing at least one event significant to humans. This will cause greater change. Eventually, people will start having minor changes in their life, such as losing a baseball game or forgetting to do the bills. Weather will greatly change. Eventually, these actions will change everyday lives within a greater radius. The weather will also change, to the point in which it is completely different from what it would have been. This effect is bound to spread throughout the world eventually. People will start dying and being saved because of the effects taking place. This domino effect becomes more of a snowball effect, in which creates such great changes, it will be bound to change history. People will be born that will directly change history, for the good or the worse. People will die that would have directly changed history but instead changes history by being an absence to this world. Wars will be declared, diseases will be cured, laws will be made, companies will collapse, countries will shift their borders, split, or even fall completely. Soon enough, every single person that is alive wouldn't have been alive, because there would have been different people if it weren't for this avalanche of events that would have taken place.

Culture, politics, and country boundaries would be different. Household items, the Internet, and social media would be different. College, toilet seats, pencils, technology, global warming, and clothing would be different. None of would be alive, neither me nor you. None of us would be on this forum. President Trump wouldn't be president, as he wouldn't exist. And that's just assuming USA would exist. Nobel prizes wouldn't exist. People as we know it would be different.

But everything that we know has come to be

All because a butterfly was daring enough to flap its wings

You are right about this although you did blow this out of proportion. The IMPACT of the butterfly flapping it's wings (and other humorous things you mentioned) is "NEGLIGIBLE". Although it induces some finite change, it is still "NEGLIGIBLE" when compared to the overall scenario.

GWTR

If chess did not exist, Britain would be the world's only superpower, mainly due to its navy.

tittiesnxans
Interesting thread...
MARattigan

Trump was right all along. All these hurricanes are nothing to do with global warming. We just need to stamp out them damn butterflies,

stewardjandstewardj
Darshan_Haragi_L wrote:
stewardjandstewardj wrote:
IainLim wrote:
You talk as if scientific theories are 100% correct. Believe it or not plenty of previously-supported scientific theories have been proven wrong in the past. Theories can be "well-substantiated" and "confirmed" through observations, but that doesn't mean it's true for sure. The theory of evolution could be an exception as there is plenty of obvious facts to account for it, but there isn't any way as far as I know for you to prove that a butterfly flapping its wings could contribute to different weather a thousand miles away! It's just a concept, an idea, an attempt to explain apparent randomness in nature.

There is plenty of proof. The only proof needed is logic (although weather could count as proof too). You just aren't thinking hard enough.

Your first thought is, "How can a butterfly change the weather on the other side of the world? More so, how can a butterfly change the history of the Earth?" However, the question that is more logical is, "How would a butterfly NOT change the course of the world after thousands of years have passed?"

It is obvious that a butterfly does not change the course of the world in a few days. It can not change any course of actions by flying from one spot to another immediately (except for the rare occasion, such as a driver getting distracted by the butterfly, and consequentially running into a gas station, in which explodes, killing dozens of people and causing massive damage)

I doubt that a butterfly can even change the weather after a few days have passed. However, the atoms that have been moved will change the atmosphere around it slightly. This change will spread, although a slight change. However, this slight change will make another slight change, and the change will keep spreading. The change made will keep spreading throughout the atmosphere, and will become bigger and bigger, changing slightly faster. Eventually, other courses of action will change, such as bugs, plants, and bacteria dying or living due to these slight changes. This will cause bigger changes, and this will spread changes even further. Bigger and bigger changes might occur, such as animals dying, lightning striking a good distance away from where it would have stricken, rain falling in a slightly different place. This will cause even bigger changes. This can cause the landscape to slightly change and will start having a greater probability of significantly changing at least one event significant to humans. This will cause greater change. Eventually, people will start having minor changes in their life, such as losing a baseball game or forgetting to do the bills. Weather will greatly change. Eventually, these actions will change everyday lives within a greater radius. The weather will also change, to the point in which it is completely different from what it would have been. This effect is bound to spread throughout the world eventually. People will start dying and being saved because of the effects taking place. This domino effect becomes more of a snowball effect, in which creates such great changes, it will be bound to change history. People will be born that will directly change history, for the good or the worse. People will die that would have directly changed history but instead changes history by being an absence to this world. Wars will be declared, diseases will be cured, laws will be made, companies will collapse, countries will shift their borders, split, or even fall completely. Soon enough, every single person that is alive wouldn't have been alive, because there would have been different people if it weren't for this avalanche of events that would have taken place.

Culture, politics, and country boundaries would be different. Household items, the Internet, and social media would be different. College, toilet seats, pencils, technology, global warming, and clothing would be different. None of would be alive, neither me nor you. None of us would be on this forum. President Trump wouldn't be president, as he wouldn't exist. And that's just assuming USA would exist. Nobel prizes wouldn't exist. People as we know it would be different.

But everything that we know has come to be

All because a butterfly was daring enough to flap its wings

You are right about this although you did blow this out of proportion. The IMPACT of the butterfly flapping it's wings (and other humorous things you mentioned) is "NEGLIGIBLE". Although it induces some finite change, it is still "NEGLIGIBLE" when compared to the overall scenario.

You are not getting the overall picture. If a butterfly makes a "finite" or even "negligible" change, won't the change made cause a greater change? And this change cause an even greater change, like a domino effect? And won't these changes spread out over time, getting bigger and bigger? It is only logical that a butterfly will completely change the world after 1000 years. You are thinking like one of those time machine movies in which people go back in time 50-300 years, stay there for a couple of days, then come back only to find that their lives have only slightly changed. When in reality, if they teleported a gigantic time machine 200 years ago, then immediately time travel back to the present, it doesn't matter if he didn't kill anything while he was there. It doesn't matter that no human has saw him. He still would come back to find a completely different world

Heather_Stephens

Shouldn't we be trying to find that butterfly, and stop it before it does any more damage? Just a suggestion.

stewardjandstewardj

We don't know what the butterfly will cause. It will cause plenty of damage, but it will also cause good things. We don't know how good or how bad the butterfly is. If we did know something like that, we would be able to predict the weather by now

xoclueless

can you see the flyiing tern?  

you must look close....it is flying very fast

YouJustGotScrewed
lol
stewardjandstewardj

lol that has nothing to do about the subject, but that took forever for me to find. only when I zoomed in did I see it

MARattigan
xoclueless wrote:

can you see the flyiing tern?  

you must look close....it is flying very fast

My God - a flying tern. That's going to cause Armageddon.

stewardjandstewardj

or maybe could cure cancer

or could cause the rules of chess to change slightly

or could lead to a person inventing a popular game that is a cross between Monopoly and chess lol

xoclueless

Puerto Rico.

stewardjandstewardj

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