Is it just me or chess isn't the same anymore?
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Nylon-Sock-100
3 days ago
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#61
Computers have knocked the stuffing out of chess ! …gone are the romantic days of chess , with all those classical chess Grandmasters ! ……I call them the beautiful days of chess .
3 days ago
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#62
whoever is NOT an indian pretty much wants to quit chess at this point i guess
3 days ago
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#63
OmarVahidov wrote:
The forum got dislike reactions and downvotes from every single Indian. You just have to respect people's opinion and be objective.
you hate on an indian (Gukesh) = indians hate on you - it's fair no?
3 days ago
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#64
OmarVahidov wrote:
MaetsNori wrote:
OmarVahidov wrote:
... other legends somehow disappeared. They're not the same anymore, which is ruining chess for me, and for most of the chess fans. May be you're a little new to chess and you think "What's wrong with this guy, chess is fun for me" but for me, it used to be 3 times more fun. It was when watching legends play was more fun ...
It's common to have chess idols, and to feel that chess has "moved on" in a worse direction, once those idols aren't playing anymore.
Imagine how I felt when, first learning as a kid, my chess idols were Kasparov and Karpov and their epic rivalry, whose games I followed through my first chess books ... (The first game I ever saw in print was a Kasparov vs. Karpov game).
I learned in the early 90s, when their rivalry had just ended, and their time in chess was just about done. So for a while, I felt a bit lost as a chess fan. So I understand the feeling.
But chess marches on. And a new chess idol will arrive, in time. Or perhaps he already has ...
But new chess idols will never be the same as older ones. I have also watched many Fischer and Kasparov games, and their styles are just... amazing.
Can't tell the same about Gukesh or any other young chess stars.
You say you like their styles, so which style do you like? aggressive? positional?
2 days ago
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#66
Ironguard5s wrote:
OmarVahidov wrote:
The forum got dislike reactions and downvotes from every single Indian. You just have to respect people's opinion and be objective.
you hate on an indian (Gukesh) = indians hate on you - it's fair no?
I didn't say I hate Gukesh? I said I don't like his play style which is just computer lines and it's my personal opinion.
2 days ago
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#67
Ironguard5s wrote:
OmarVahidov wrote:
MaetsNori wrote:
OmarVahidov wrote:
... other legends somehow disappeared. They're not the same anymore, which is ruining chess for me, and for most of the chess fans. May be you're a little new to chess and you think "What's wrong with this guy, chess is fun for me" but for me, it used to be 3 times more fun. It was when watching legends play was more fun ...
It's common to have chess idols, and to feel that chess has "moved on" in a worse direction, once those idols aren't playing anymore.
Imagine how I felt when, first learning as a kid, my chess idols were Kasparov and Karpov and their epic rivalry, whose games I followed through my first chess books ... (The first game I ever saw in print was a Kasparov vs. Karpov game).
I learned in the early 90s, when their rivalry had just ended, and their time in chess was just about done. So for a while, I felt a bit lost as a chess fan. So I understand the feeling.
But chess marches on. And a new chess idol will arrive, in time. Or perhaps he already has ...
But new chess idols will never be the same as older ones. I have also watched many Fischer and Kasparov games, and their styles are just... amazing.
Can't tell the same about Gukesh or any other young chess stars.
You say you like their styles, so which style do you like? aggressive? positional?
I don't know how to describe Magnus' style. He's always making the most genius unexpected moves, also never seen him playing boringly. Even if he's defending, he is usually coming with a risky defending plan, which usually turns into a strong attacking plan later.
Mostly agressive, but unexpected, and of course risky.
2 days ago
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#68
Kotshmot wrote:
This sounds like a more if a personal opinion and experience than something more general (for the most part). You started watching chess at a certain time and your favourite players are slowly stepping aside, which is normal. I do agree tho that the world championship doesn't have the same intrigue when the true best player chooses not to participate. It is what it is - Magnus doesn't have to return tho, with time the situation will correct itself and even Magnus will be replaced.
I've seen too many people thinking the same with me (on social media and irl) that's why I made a forum, to see what people on Chess.com think.
13 hrs ago
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#70
Now my inbox is getting bombed by some Indian people's trash talk. Bro didn't even get what I am talking about, he thinks the case was me supporting Ding lmao.
Creating alt accounts to send that kind of messages to my inbox shows how respectful Gukesh fans are.
And the funny part is, I can guess who this guy is.
12 hrs ago
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#72
It's a little anowing to think that the world champion is not actually the best
12 hrs ago
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#73
IeJoker wrote:
It's a little anowing to think that the world champion is not actually the best
Thats true for almost everything. There's always someone out there whos better at what you do.
yo that's wild
wanna play against me vertemes to really see who's a champion
what do you mean
11 hrs ago
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#77
tomfigueroa-datil wrote:
wanna play against me vertemes to really see who's a champion
??? I wasn't saying that I was, I was just saying that no matter how good you are, there's always someone better.
11 hrs ago
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#78
To me, chess is just a way to relax. I did watch all 14 WCC games this year and to me, honestly, I don’t think both players have the spirit to play for the win. Gukesh might seems like an 18 years old full of potential, but the draws and missed chances in the WCC just make chess less entertaining as it was. Back when Fischer and Kasparov was playing WCC, it were much more interesting with all the fantastic ideas and tactics. I think that the existence of Stockfish and all the chess engines were all to blame. In the 1970s, there are no chess supercomputers, so there would be more novelties and interesting ideas. Nowadays, players prepares with supercomputers, and all the lines they play are from supercomputers that makes no sense and making chess less, humane. Along with people cheating and accusing each other of cheating rather than enjoy the game, I think chess itself can be said broken. My opinion is that chess supercomputers should not be used for tournament preparation, let human chess players do their human thing of creativity. For the time control part, I still think that classical should stay just for the chance that people might abandon supercomputers in the future and do the thinking for themselves. Rapid and blitz is already getting popular so that was the fun part with the Grand Chess Tour and World Rapid and Blitz.
#1 Ding -Gukesh was not boring. You just do not understand it. #2 Nothing will change if Magnus will return or not. #3 Classical is always the main time control. #4 Chess sites are stopping cheaters since year 2001. #5 Chess sites today are perfect.
