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Jenium
OmarVahidov wrote:

My experience is a different one:

"it wasn't really fun to watch them."

Actually, I found the match to be more interesting to watch. Unlike the Magnus games, in the Ding-Gukesh match the outcome wasn't clear. Besides, they played a lot of different openings (even the French) which in my opinion was more fun than watching the Berlin or the Petroff game after game.

"And after Magnus said that he withdraws from being the World Champion, chess started getting boring"

I hear you. But that's just a phase. After Kaparov lost to Kramnik there was also a decade with several players (Anand, Kramnik, Topalov) being equally strong... Wait a few more years and one of these Indian kids will emerge as the clear #1.

"everything is getting faster, most people aren't patient enough to watch the whole classic game, so I think Chess could also get a little faster and rapid could become the main time control."

The WC still generated more interest than other formats. And there are already plenty of rapid and blitz events.

"As a professional, it's not boring for me to watch classic chess, because I can see what they're trying to do,"

Uhm... Professional? According to your FIDE page you're rated 1550, no?

Pigeon2076
MrsWitcher wrote:

nahh, you just bored, it's time to switch games.

For real

OmarVahidov
self_taught_gm wrote:

#1 Ding -Gukesh was not boring. You just do not understand it. #2 Nothing will change if Magnus will return or not. #3 Classical is always the main time control. #4 Chess sites are stopping cheaters since year 2001. #5 Chess sites today are perfect.

you brought all the false statements to only one comment

OmarVahidov

I'm not bored, I'm watching CCT (:

OmarVahidov
Jenium wrote:
OmarVahidov wrote:

My experience is a different one:

"it wasn't really fun to watch them."

Actually, I found the match to be more interesting to watch. Unlike the Magnus games, in the Ding-Gukesh match the outcome wasn't clear. Besides, they played a lot of different openings (even the French) which in my opinion was more fun than watching the Berlin or the Petroff game after game.

"And after Magnus said that he withdraws from being the World Champion, chess started getting boring"

I hear you. But that's just a phase. After Kaparov lost to Kramnik there was also a decade with several players (Anand, Kramnik, Topalov) being equally strong... Wait a few more years and one of these Indian kids will emerge as the clear #1.

"everything is getting faster, most people aren't patient enough to watch the whole classic game, so I think Chess could also get a little faster and rapid could become the main time control."

The WC still generated more interest than other formats. And there are already plenty of rapid and blitz events.

"As a professional, it's not boring for me to watch classic chess, because I can see what they're trying to do,"

Uhm... Professional? According to your FIDE page you're rated 1550, no?

1. I've played only one classical tournament.

2. Unlike in other countries, there are some nations where it is very hard to gain elo, because chess players here are very strong. For example, my Romanian friend is in the same level with me, but while he has 1900+ rapid elo, mine is only 1600.

3. Chess isn't even my main thing, so I don't really care about my elo at the moment. If I take it serious, I'd be 2200+ for all time controls on chess.com, and probably 1800+ FIDE in a few months.

Just like how I was a 1700 a while ago, then I took it serious and reached 2140+ bullet easily.

MaetsNori
OmarVahidov wrote:

Cheating isn't a big problem at the moment, but in a few years, it will be.

You should've seen how rampant cheating was online in the late 90s / early 2000s ... (I'm looking at you, Yahoo Chess!)

Jenium
OmarVahidov wrote:
Jenium wrote:
OmarVahidov wrote:

My experience is a different one:

"it wasn't really fun to watch them."

Actually, I found the match to be more interesting to watch. Unlike the Magnus games, in the Ding-Gukesh match the outcome wasn't clear. Besides, they played a lot of different openings (even the French) which in my opinion was more fun than watching the Berlin or the Petroff game after game.

"And after Magnus said that he withdraws from being the World Champion, chess started getting boring"

I hear you. But that's just a phase. After Kaparov lost to Kramnik there was also a decade with several players (Anand, Kramnik, Topalov) being equally strong... Wait a few more years and one of these Indian kids will emerge as the clear #1.

"everything is getting faster, most people aren't patient enough to watch the whole classic game, so I think Chess could also get a little faster and rapid could become the main time control."

The WC still generated more interest than other formats. And there are already plenty of rapid and blitz events.

"As a professional, it's not boring for me to watch classic chess, because I can see what they're trying to do,"

Uhm... Professional? According to your FIDE page you're rated 1550, no?

1. I've played only one classical tournament.

2. Unlike in other countries, there are some nations where it is very hard to gain elo, because chess players here are very strong. For example, my Romanian friend is in the same level with me, but while he has 1900+ rapid elo, mine is only 1600.

3. Chess isn't even my main thing, so I don't really care about my elo at the moment. If I take it serious, I'd be 2200+ for all time controls on chess.com, and probably 1800+ FIDE in a few months.

Just like how I was a 1700 a while ago, then I took it serious and reached 2140+ bullet easily.

I see, I guess you mean that you play competitive chess. "Professional" usually refers to strong players (mainly GMs) making a living out of chess. Anyway, good luck on your journey.

OmarVahidov
Jenium wrote:
OmarVahidov wrote:
Jenium wrote:
OmarVahidov wrote:

My experience is a different one:

"it wasn't really fun to watch them."

Actually, I found the match to be more interesting to watch. Unlike the Magnus games, in the Ding-Gukesh match the outcome wasn't clear. Besides, they played a lot of different openings (even the French) which in my opinion was more fun than watching the Berlin or the Petroff game after game.

"And after Magnus said that he withdraws from being the World Champion, chess started getting boring"

I hear you. But that's just a phase. After Kaparov lost to Kramnik there was also a decade with several players (Anand, Kramnik, Topalov) being equally strong... Wait a few more years and one of these Indian kids will emerge as the clear #1.

"everything is getting faster, most people aren't patient enough to watch the whole classic game, so I think Chess could also get a little faster and rapid could become the main time control."

The WC still generated more interest than other formats. And there are already plenty of rapid and blitz events.

"As a professional, it's not boring for me to watch classic chess, because I can see what they're trying to do,"

Uhm... Professional? According to your FIDE page you're rated 1550, no?

1. I've played only one classical tournament.

2. Unlike in other countries, there are some nations where it is very hard to gain elo, because chess players here are very strong. For example, my Romanian friend is in the same level with me, but while he has 1900+ rapid elo, mine is only 1600.

3. Chess isn't even my main thing, so I don't really care about my elo at the moment. If I take it serious, I'd be 2200+ for all time controls on chess.com, and probably 1800+ FIDE in a few months.

Just like how I was a 1700 a while ago, then I took it serious and reached 2140+ bullet easily.

I see, I guess you mean that you play competitive chess. "Professional" usually refers to strong players (mainly GMs) making a living out of chess. Anyway, good luck on your journey.

I've already made some money as a chess coach. It's just that I'm making more money from other things, and they have more perspective than chess (at least in my country's situation).

And I'm planning to start chess coaching again as a 2nd job soon.

Thanks!

Mirahata
OmarVahidov wrote:

Now my inbox is getting bombed by some Indian people's trash talk. Bro didn't even get what I am talking about, he thinks the case was me supporting Ding lmao.

Creating alt accounts to send that kind of messages to my inbox shows how respectful Gukesh fans are.

And the funny part is, I can guess who this guy is.

Well, that guy is dumb and just wanted some attention, not seeing that the forum isn't Ding Liren losing to Gukesh. And might as well, get his eyes a checkup, because he can't even read the forum and plays PUBG all the time.

Mirahata

@Claire_Reynold

self_taught_gm

Oh my I did not know my level can coach. Because an 1800 chess.com/1800 average opponent as stated above is already making money as a chess coach.

OmarVahidov
self_taught_gm wrote:

Oh my I did not know my level can coach. Because an 1800 chess.com/1800 average opponent as stated above is already making money as a chess coach.

Mate you missed the comments that I posted earlier... I'm tired to repeat everything

mikewier

I watched the WC match and found it thrilling. Ding and Liren were roughly evenly matched and so the outcome was never a foregone conclusion.

computers have changed chess style. There are fewer games that have concrete tactical lines, since the top players know to avoid losing to traps in the opening. So there are fewer games in the Fischer/Tal/Kasparov style.

instead, the top GMs play complex maneuvering games—Catalans, Rossolimo Sicilians, b3 English, Italians, etc. These may be harder for average players to understand. But I find them fascinating.

MrsWitcher
mikewier wrote:

I watched the WC match and found it thrilling. Ding and Liren were roughly evenly matched and so the outcome was never a foregone conclusion.

computers have changed chess style. There are fewer games that have concrete tactical lines, since the top players know to avoid losing to traps in the opening. So there are fewer games in the Fischer/Tal/Kasparov style.

instead, the top GMs play complex maneuvering games—Catalans, Rossolimo Sicilians, b3 English, Italians, etc. These may be harder for average players to understand. But I find them fascinating.

Ding and Liren?

mikewier

Oops. Slip of the mind.

Kotshmot
mikewier wrote:

Oops. Slip of the mind.

It's actually a great way to put it given the fact that Ding has been dealing with his internal battles, which clearly played a big part in the match.

OmarVahidov
Kotshmot wrote:
mikewier wrote:

Oops. Slip of the mind.

It's actually a great way to put it given the fact that Ding has been dealing with his internal battles, which clearly played a big part in the match.

He was just scared to take responsibilities, that's it. Right now he is feeling much better, when he's not a World Champion lol

self_taught_gm
OmarVahidov wrote:
self_taught_gm wrote:

Oh my I did not know my level can coach. Because an 1800 chess.com/1800 average opponent as stated above is already making money as a chess coach.

Mate you missed the comments that I posted earlier... I'm tired to repeat everything

Dude, do not hallucinate that you are a professional. We are all amateurs (so far not unless Nakamura or coach Ramesh comments ) here in the thread.

OmarVahidov
self_taught_gm wrote:
OmarVahidov wrote:
self_taught_gm wrote:

Oh my I did not know my level can coach. Because an 1800 chess.com/1800 average opponent as stated above is already making money as a chess coach.

Mate you missed the comments that I posted earlier... I'm tired to repeat everything

Dude, do not hallucinate that you are a professional. We are all amateurs here in the thread.

I'll just have to ignore you, because you're not even reading what I already wrote about it. Sorry.

You can stay an amateur if you want. 🤷‍♂️

self_taught_gm
OmarVahidov wrote:
self_taught_gm wrote:
OmarVahidov wrote:
self_taught_gm wrote:

Oh my I did not know my level can coach. Because an 1800 chess.com/1800 average opponent as stated above is already making money as a chess coach.

Mate you missed the comments that I posted earlier... I'm tired to repeat everything

Dude, do not hallucinate that you are a professional. We are all amateurs here in the thread.

I'll just have to ignore you, because you're not even reading what I already wrote about it. Sorry.

You can stay an amateur if you want. 🤷‍♂️

Of course I am reading. You as a professional chessman you find Ding-Gukesh boring. Stop hallucinating. That is my friendly advice. Yes you are correct I am an amateur that plays very much better than you. Kind regards.