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AlekhineEnthusiast46

Bro who is this guy spamming in the chat? What is your purpose rick sr and jr?

basketstorm
AlekhineEnthusiast46 wrote:
Busara wrote:

Nothing to report. Basket is entitled to his fool's errand as much as his toxic opinion.

He threatened to try toclose the site. You should report that. People are entitled to their opinions, but there is a line. He crossed it.

Asking everyone to report me is a personal attack. And this is a violation of chess.com community policy. I am reporting you now and demanding that you stop your violent behavior.

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AlekhineEnthusiast46

You threatened to close their site, so you know how that is going to go. I'm sorry for speaking the minds of 90% of the community and Chess.coms opinions themselves. They will agree with me. Not you, me.

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Busara
AlekhineEnthusiast46 wrote:
Busara wrote:

Nothing to report. Basket is entitled to his fool's errand as much as his toxic opinion.

He threatened to try toclose the site. You should report that. People are entitled to their opinions, but there is a line. He crossed it.

I don't think it's against any rules, and I don't think anyone is going to take him seriously anyway. I certainly don't, on any count.

AlekhineEnthusiast46

A perosonal attack? You are doing more than a personal attack. You are threatening to attack the site. I am just defending Chess.com and their ideas and existence. You turned this argument into if Chess.com should exist, how do you expect them to listen to you, who seem to despise their very existence?

AlekhineEnthusiast46

Busura, he seems very serious. IDK bout you.

basketstorm
AlekhineEnthusiast46 wrote:

You threatened to close their site, so you know how that is going to go. I'm sorry for speaking the minds of 90% of the community and Chess.coms opinions themselves. They will agree with me. Not you, me.

No you shouldn't be sorry, you should STOP that and speak only for yourself. Also stop your abusive behavior and violation of chess.com community rules. Also if you have reported me, that's fine but you don't have to write a dozen of posts about that.

basketstorm
AlekhineEnthusiast46 wrote:

A perosonal attack? You are doing more than a personal attack. You are threatening to attack the site. I am just defending Chess.com and their ideas and existence. You turned this argument into if Chess.com should exist, how do you expect them to listen to you, who seem to despise their very existence?

They can continue existing after a positive transformation (that would exclude online pvp feature completely).

Busara
AlekhineEnthusiast46 wrote:

Busura, he seems very serious. IDK bout you.

I didn't read what he said, but unless he plans to do something illegal then it's his right to try and shut down chess.com. Until he starts doing harm, punishing him would be overkill. He may be serious, but IMO he not only won't succeed, he won't get a millimeter off the ground.

jli30c
basketstorm wrote:
AlekhineEnthusiast46 wrote:

You threatened to close their site, so you know how that is going to go. I'm sorry for speaking the minds of 90% of the community and Chess.coms opinions themselves. They will agree with me. Not you, me.

No you shouldn't be sorry, you should STOP that and speak only for yourself. Also stop your abusive behavior and violation of chess.com community rules. Also if you have reported me, that's fine but you don't have to write a dozen of posts about that.

Just to let you know you are the one breaking TOS.

MaetsNori
JuniorS-B wrote:

So then let's just assume everyone cheats ...

I know you were being facetious here to make a point, but in all honesty, I would say that cheaters are in the small minority. Most players are here because they love the game - and are trying to improve at it.

Frustration and other negative emotions can cloud a person's judgement. It's easy to lob the "cheater!" accusation at an opponent after losing. After all, you tried so hard, yet they still defeated you - surely this must be suspicious?

But most of our losses have a reason - and the reason is usually our own fault. A poor decision here. An oversight, there. A misclick, a move too slow, a combination that we didn't think through to the end ...

Instead of pointing the blame at others when we lose, our first inclination should be to look critically at our own moves, to see where we went wrong.

This whole "cheaters are everywhere!" mindset is understandable, but it's also making players far less likely to hold their own play accountable. This applies even to Kramnik and his "let's do the procedure" practice.

Watching him review his lost games, he approaches them from an angle of suspicion, paying close attention to his opponent's moves ... while being quick to turn a blind eye to his own inaccuracies ...

Busara

Basket likes to smugly accuse people of abuse and rule violations. A classic form of bullying.

AlekhineEnthusiast46

Very true Nori. Well said

AlekhineEnthusiast46

Agree, Basura. That's why I reported him

Busara

@MaetsNori

People think their subjective impressions of cheating are more reliable than the evaluations of chess.com's fair play team of 30 or so professionals with relevant expertise in areas like statistics, and who take into account every possible factor that correlates with cheating. It's ridiculous. I've been falsely accused, and to my regret I once accused someone I subsequently realized was honest. The people to listen to are the ones with the specific applicable knowledge, not self appointed experts who happen to be good at chess. Being good at chess doesn't mean being free of unwarranted suspicion and confirmation bias, as Kramnik has proven.