MENGARINI / FRENCH WING GAMBIT PLAYERS ?

Recently started playing Mengarini against Sicilian with quite a bit of success. Also trying the wing gambit against the French, which is similar in some ways. Would to see some of your games, and tips, if you use either of these

Mengarini-- Nc6 by black and they often fall into a trap that is hard to see coming. Basically Nb5 is a real problem for their queen sitting on d4, and playing a6 wont stop the knight landing there either, as their rook in the corner is pinned

https://www.chess.com/game/live/107090524689

French Wing Gambit. Harder to find the right lines, but it certainly takes the French player out of their comfort zone

I have played a little of both, not enough to make my view relevant. However WillTaylorChess on YouTube plays loads of both worth finding him on YouTube and including Mengharini in your search

There are opening books by Bezgodov (2004), Chess Stars Publishing and by Soloviev (2013), Chess Stars again on 2.a3 in the Sicilian.

Not sure if they have much on the 3.b4 lines but may be worth a look

John Watson at Chess Publishing occasionally covers games in the French Wing Gambit From a quick look this is the latest

https://www.chesspublishing.com/content/2/jul22.htm#win

Both GM games (chess.com database), and player games (Lichess) show that it favours white. Maybe the engines are against it but the engine are against any kind of gambit

Correct. The French wing gambit can be reached in many lines if they play e6 and d5, which is one of the reasons I put the 2 together in this post.

There are many similarities, like the strong dark bishop for black, with plenty of space and the ability for the knight to land on b5 even if they play a6.

In the French Wing gambit, it is often a bit different. White often does not castle-- the king hides behind a pawn on c3, and instead white plays g4 and h4

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No it doesn't! In fact, for any French player that is not lazy and prepares a line against it, it is an easy advantage for Black.

My favorite line is Korchnoi's Wedge - 1.e4 e6 2.Nf3 d5 3.e5 c5 4.b4 d4!

White has Bb2. Most of the GM games from there went in favour of white.

I would be happy enough to play that as white in any faster time control. I would be amazed if many French players knew the best lines from there.
Nc6 by black and we just play b5, kick the knight, and c3 to chip away at the center.

mate in 20 in the Mengarini

winning the queen in 11 moves

Ah... the Mengarini, cream of the Hope Chess openings family.

After 1.e4 c5 2.a3 Nc6 3.b4?! (3.Bb5 is certainly a better way to make use of the a2-a3 tempo) 3...Nf6! Black is already slightly better.

Should be fairly obvious that capturing pieces and pawns was obligatory when you learned the moves (maybe a couple of centuries ago).

See my previous post.

another queen trap

Great choices, Mengarini against Sicilian and Wing Gambit against French! Both can be very effective and challenging for Black.

I'd love to share some insights and tips on these openings. Unfortunately, I don't have personal games to share, but I can offer general advice and ideas.

Mengarini (1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nc6 5.Nc3 e5):

- Focus on rapid development, especially your knights and bishop.
- Try to control the d5 square, crucial for central dominance.
- Be prepared to adapt to Black's counterplay on the queenside.
- Consider pawn breaks on the kingside (f4) or queenside (c4) to create imbalances.

Wing Gambit (1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.Nf3):

- Aim for quick development and castling kingside.
- Use your pawns to challenge Black's central control (c4, f4).
- Be mindful of Black's counterplay on the queenside (c4, b5).
- Consider sacrificing a pawn to open lines for your pieces (g4, h4).

another queen won in the mengarini