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question on fide rating: 0 point in the 1st tournament

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franco5578
Hi all, I have done my research but am still confusing about Fide rating system.

Background:
I am an unrated player. I joined my first fide rated tournament recently. Throughout the same, I played against only ONE fide rated player, and unfortunately lost the game. I won a couple of games against other unrated players though.

According to the Fide handbook clause 8.2.1: “If an unrated player scores zero in their first event this score is disregarded. Otherwise, their rating is calculated using all their results as in 7.1.4.”

My question:

1. Does the rule mean that my lost against the rated player in the first tournament will not be counted in my initial rating calculation, despite I won some games against unrated players?

2. What if I lose to all rated player again in my next tournament? Will it be counted?

Thanks you all in advance!
Martin_Stahl
franco5578 wrote:
Hi all, I have done my research but am still confusing about Fide rating system.

Background:
I am an unrated player. I joined my first fide rated tournament recently. Throughout the same, I played against only ONE fide rated player, and unfortunately lost the game. I won a couple of games against other unrated players though.

According to the Fide handbook clause 8.2.1: “If an unrated player scores zero in their first event this score is disregarded. Otherwise, their rating is calculated using all their results as in 7.1.4.”

My question:

1. Does the rule mean that my lost against the rated player in the first tournament will not be counted in my initial rating calculation, despite I won some games against unrated players?

2. What if I lose to all rated player again in my next tournament? Will it be counted?

Thanks you all in advance!

 

That is correct, since you didn't get at least half a point against a FIDE rated player, it doesn't count. 

CraigIreland

My reading of the rules is that is that if you score zero in subsequent tournaments, the score won't be disregarded and your rating will be determined by how you perform against your next 5 rated players, in qualifying tournaments. If it's calculated as less than 1000 then you will remain unrated.

HR143_trash

I played against 2 rated players and lost both in my first tournament. will they be disregarded because i got 5/9 points against unrated in the tournament or will they be counted as losses

JamesColeman
HR143_trash wrote:

I played against 2 rated players and lost both in my first tournament. will they be disregarded because i got 5/9 points against unrated in the tournament or will they be counted as losses

Disregarded. It’s as if you never played the tournament (but the games may count for local/national rating if applicable)