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BlunderKing1987

It is so tiring and demoralizing to keep losing to those typical fast bullies at the 10 min and lower timeframes, who just play clumsy games, losing a pawn here and there but typically have 6 minutes left when I have 15 seconds left, trying to actually come up with good moves. The bar shows 3 or more points in my advantage and they are humiliating me in the chat with ZZZzzzzzz and then lose a pawn for no reason. It just keeps happening over and over. Where do these bullies come from? They must have a really sinister motive.
This is the type of reason that just makes me want to quit chess for good. There must be a really sinister motive in people clearly trying to humiliate me, playing like an IQ 60 idiot. I have read a real chess book and these people are insulting my inteligence by these 10 minute games like I've never studied chess from a book! 

To me, these are no different from the typical high school bullies who drop your textbooks and say 'loser!'.

David

Time is a resource and clearly you're mismanaging yours. Either choose longer time controls so you have more or learn manage the time you do have better - your complaint is as ridiculous as your opponents in these games complaining that you're moving so slowly - you're just using the time that you're entitled to, and if they wanted a quicker game, they should have played a game with a faster time control.

BlunderKing1987

So you are saying the approach to games is in many cases to just concede and give up on what I feel is a potentially good move and resort to an inferior one, just for the sake of time? If I feel there clearly should be a way to punish a bad move and can't find it immediately, I should simply just play something I am fully aware is totally losing?
It is just too tempting to find ways to improve my position, rather than resorting to something clearly inferior that I know to be inferior.

punchdrunkpatzer
BlunderKing1987 wrote:

So you are saying the approach to games is in many cases to just concede and give up on what I feel is a potentially good move and resort to an inferior one, just for the sake of time? If I feel there clearly should be a way to punish a bad move and can't find it immediately, I should simply just play something I am fully aware is totally losing?
It is just too tempting to find ways to improve my position, rather than resorting to something clearly inferior that I know to be inferior.

Whatevs. Keep losing, then.

play longer time controls if you don't wanna manage time.

basketstorm

Imagine if he tries bullet

landloch

You can turn off chat, so you don't need to read their smack talk.

As you've noticed, people who play extremely fast tend to hang pawns and pieces or otherwise make poor moves. Yes, you should take time to think and find punishing responses ... BUT ... you do have limited time. It's important to develop a sense of when to stop analyzing and make a move that's good enough so you have enough time for later moves. That's the nature of rapid. The only way to avoid it is to play at longer time controls.

HangingPiecesChomper

sounds like you just suck at chess

KronosMC90

The clock is a piece. If you don't like it then play longer time controls. I've lost on time a few moves from mate. I still lost. Feels bad sure but it is what it is. Play with the time you have.

McCormickSpiceBrand

To be honest I'm one of those players

if anything, it's US being good on accident. I make my moves too quick with too little thought and I end up timing others out

KronosMC90
McCormickSpiceBrand wrote:

To be honest I'm one of those players

if anything, it's US being good on accident. I make my moves too quick with too little thought and I end up timing others out

It's part of the game. If I spend a lot of time on moves and outplay you but don't leave enough time to force mate then you still won. I hate getting flagged but I understand why people do it. I even do it myself.

McCormickSpiceBrand

"It's part of the game. If I spend a lot of time on moves and outplay you but don't leave enough time to force mate then you still won. I hate getting flagged but I understand why people do it. I even do it myself."

It's almost a flawless strategy until the opponent is smart enough to see through it and you get checkmated in 7 moves.

It's pretty useful in low ratings but once I get up to 250-ish it stops working well

KronosMC90
McCormickSpiceBrand wrote:

"It's part of the game. If I spend a lot of time on moves and outplay you but don't leave enough time to force mate then you still won. I hate getting flagged but I understand why people do it. I even do it myself."

It's almost a flawless strategy until the opponent is smart enough to see through it and you get checkmated in 7 moves.

It's pretty useful in low ratings but once I get up to 250-ish it stops working well

I still win and lose games based on the clock around the 1700 rating. It's not exclusive to low elo.

BlunderKing1987

It is just frustrating to lose to what I would categorize as beginners or false beginners at least and having to constantly deal with this fact. I have watched all these videos they never did, read the book they haven't and time to time those "beginners" crush me.
Is that a common thing at the 1300 level or am I an anomaly? And at what level approximately do you clearly start beating beginners decisively? Meaning Only struggle against opponents that have studied chess and just laugh at anybody clearly unskilled and punish their 'random' tricky moves? I feel at some level this stops and you only lose to those opponents you can respect (who have put in the time to study chess).
There was also a guy who played the Scandi as black and within 5 moves got totally owned each time - I thought he couldn't have been playing more than a week! A beginner. And then next thing I know he consistently beats me at two nights game as white by an opening issue I haven't figured out as there seems to be a difficulty developing your King's knight and whatever I tried, I ended up In a very difficult position and he kept up the pressure each time.
Yes I suck, an the definition of sucking to me is still losing to these 'beginners'. Only once you lose only to people who have studied chess and show complex knowledge, you can start to be proud of yourself and your skills.

Stockfish_404YT
Before 1600 everyone are still beginners level
KronosMC90

You will stop losing to people who "don't study chess" when you climb to a rating only achievable by studying chess. But in all honesty I think you're being harsh with the term beginner. I'd class 1300 as midway into intermediate.

JamesColeman
BlunderKing1987 wrote:

It is just frustrating to lose to what I would categorize as beginners or false beginners at least and having to constantly deal with this fact. I have watched all these videos they never did, read the book they haven't and time to time those "beginners" crush me.
Is that a common thing at the 1300 level or am I an anomaly? And at what level approximately do you clearly start beating beginners decisively? Meaning Only struggle against opponents that have studied chess and just laugh at anybody clearly unskilled and punish their 'random' tricky moves? I feel at some level this stops and you only lose to those opponents you can respect (who have put in the time to study chess).
There was also a guy who played the Scandi as black and within 5 moves got totally owned each time - I thought he couldn't have been playing more than a week! A beginner. And then next thing I know he consistently beats me at two nights game as white by an opening issue I haven't figured out as there seems to be a difficulty developing your King's knight and whatever I tried, I ended up In a very difficult position and he kept up the pressure each time.
Yes I suck, an the definition of sucking to me is still losing to these 'beginners'. Only once you lose only to people who have studied chess and show complex knowledge, you can start to be proud of yourself and your skills.

Honestly it doesn’t matter what you’ve studied, I know plenty of 8 year olds who couldn’t even name a chess book let alone ever opened one, regularly crushing 50 year olds who have large chess libraries and who’ve studied for decades.

Chess is a game of skill not knowledge and it’s not what you know it’s what you can show.

Going back to your original point, if someone is playing quickly but inaccurately and another play is playing accurately but slowly, eventually one of the two players will pay the price - either the perfectionist or the pragmatist. It’s just a stylistic trade off and you shouldn’t get too annoyed by it.

Mrbonehead
BlunderKing1987 wrote:

It is so tiring and demoralizing to keep losing to those typical fast bullies at the 10 min and lower timeframes, who just play clumsy games, losing a pawn here and there but typically have 6 minutes left when I have 15 seconds left, trying to actually come up with good moves. The bar shows 3 or more points in my advantage and they are humiliating me in the chat with ZZZzzzzzz and then lose a pawn for no reason. It just keeps happening over and over. Where do these bullies come from? They must have a really sinister motive.
This is the type of reason that just makes me want to quit chess for good. There must be a really sinister motive in people clearly trying to humiliate me, playing like an IQ 60 idiot. I have read a real chess book and these people are insulting my inteligence by these 10 minute games like I've never studied chess from a book! 
To me, these are no different from the typical high school bullies who drop your textbooks and say 'loser!'.

Most chess players from what I have encountered on here with their shtty messages are vile a holes. Chess seems to have turned them in narcissistic vile skum bags.

RyanZ_MD
BlunderKing1987 wrote:

So you are saying the approach to games is in many cases to just concede and give up on what I feel is a potentially good move and resort to an inferior one, just for the sake of time? If I feel there clearly should be a way to punish a bad move and can't find it immediately, I should simply just play something I am fully aware is totally losing?
It is just too tempting to find ways to improve my position, rather than resorting to something clearly inferior that I know to be inferior.

That's why you lose. Try to control your time management, try to not spend too much time on 1 move. Or you could just play with increment

BlunderKing1987
KronosMC90 wrote:

You will stop losing to people who "don't study chess" when you climb to a rating only achievable by studying chess. But in all honesty I think you're being harsh with the term beginner. I'd class 1300 as midway into intermediate.

I didn't say the 1300 level is beginner, but that I suck being at that level for losing to people who seem to play like beginners. But they compensate for it by speed, not accuracy. Some of the players are accurate and clearly more skilled and I respect them, but some of them, on paper with the same elo, play like beginners. For instance, someone who doesn't castle and plays Qe2 and lets me pin their queen with the castled rook 3 moves from there is a beginner to me and I don't care how much he played against his brother. That's a beginner, period. Yet, in some games, if we play further, the same player catches me by something or I lose on time.

KronosMC90
BlunderKing1987 wrote:
KronosMC90 wrote:

You will stop losing to people who "don't study chess" when you climb to a rating only achievable by studying chess. But in all honesty I think you're being harsh with the term beginner. I'd class 1300 as midway into intermediate.

I didn't say the 1300 level is beginner, but that I suck being at that level for losing to people who seem to play like beginners. But they compensate for it by speed, not accuracy. Some of the players are accurate and clearly more skilled and I respect them, but some of them, on paper with the same elo, play like beginners. For instance, someone who doesn't castle and plays Qe2 and lets me pin their queen with the castled rook 3 moves from there is a beginner to me and I don't care how much he played against his brother. That's a beginner, period. Yet, in some games, if we play further, the same player catches me by something or I lose on time.

Blunders can happen at any level. While I agree that's a terrible blunder it doesn't mean someone is a beginner. I've hung my queen in games. Sometimes you just make a bad move. But I don't think that makes you a beginner unless you are consistently making these terrible mistakes. It's all subjective. I imagine my games look like trash to 2000 rated players. But just based on the numbers a 1300 rated player is within the top 10% of players on the whole site. I just can't class that as beginner level.