Ware opening: meadow hay mistake LITERALLY LOSES THE ROOK how yall not seeing that
What is the worst opening?
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@14
"those examples are with 100% accuracy for both sides?" ++ Yes.
Jun 14, 2024
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#24
dasamething wrote:
the grob has to be the worst.
According to stockfish yeah
Jun 14, 2024
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#25
exceptionalfork wrote:
CharlestonViennaGambit wrote:
Yes, I do mean a named opening, but Fool's mate itself is no opening, but rather an opening trap.
But it is technically an opening. Opening traps can still be openings.
It is classified as an opening by chess.com:
And this one site:
I could give other examples, but I'm sure you get the point.
You may have that opinioin, and I will not be pushy.
Jun 14, 2024
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#26
The_GeckoWZ wrote:
Ware opening: meadow hay mistake LITERALLY LOSES THE ROOK how yall not seeing that
Because it only loses the echange, not a rook and 4 points of king saftey and tempos.
Jun 14, 2024
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#27
tygxc wrote:
@14
"those examples are with 100% accuracy for both sides?" ++ Yes.
I did some digging myself, and with 100% accuracy, it is only -0.46 on move 30 for both sides. On move 114, however, the game is a draw. Look here for yourself. Look at the deepest line.
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#28
Shadowestr wrote:
dasamething wrote:
the grob has to be the worst.
According to stockfish yeah
After eveything I've said, are you still confident in that statement?
Jun 14, 2024
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#29
CharlestonViennaGambit wrote:
Shadowestr wrote:
dasamething wrote:
the grob has to be the worst.
According to stockfish yeah
After eveything I've said, are you still confident in that statement?
yeah
Jun 14, 2024
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#30
CharlestonViennaGambit wrote:
Ah yes, the Duras Gambit. Now, this opening is the 2nd worst opening, as it loses a pawn on the 2nd move. It also weakens the king. But...
Let's not forget about the true worst opening, aka Damiano Defense, which, again, loses your rook or gets you checkmated. Not just a pawn and a weak king there.
Now, you could still lose only a pawn if you are careful, but white just has so much play that it doesn't matter.
And once again, how is the Grob losing by force? In other words, how can black force checkmate or a loss of material for white?
it is not the worst for white because i lost to the grob before
@36
"I did some digging myself, and with 100% accuracy, it is only -0.46 on move 30 for both sides."
++ Where is your sequence of moves? Which move in your opinion improves on any of the 4 lines I provided?
@39
"it is not the worst for white because i lost to the grob before"
++ It is the worst for white, but that does not prevent from losing against it.
'The winner is the one who makes the next-to-last mistake.' - Tartakower
On lower levels and/or in fast time controls mistakes will follow, so you can just make the first mistake 1 g4?
Grob 👍
Jun 14, 2024
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#34
Definetely the "cow" created by Anna Cramling.
Yes, I do mean a named opening, but Fool's mate itself is no opening, but rather an opening trap.
But it is technically an opening. Opening traps can still be openings.
It is classified as an opening by chess.com:
And this one site:
I could give other examples, but I'm sure you get the point.