How do I sign up for Lag Forgiveness? - Chess Forums

extrafluff

2 days ago

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#1

I keep losing to either time or people are beating me with a response time of under 1 second in Bullet. I keep getting told there is no cheating and they are receiving Lag Forgiveness and that’s why they seem almost stop time or move at unbelievable speed with almost perfect accuracy like a computer.

Is it possible to sign up for this Lag Forgiveness as well so I can have my time freeze when I play?

justbefair

2 days ago

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#2

extrafluff wrote:

I keep losing to either time or people are beating me with a response time of under 1 second in Bullet. I keep getting told there is no cheating and they are receiving Lag Forgiveness and that’s why they seem almost stop time or move at unbelievable speed with almost perfect accuracy like a computer.
Is it possible to sign up for this Lag Forgiveness as well so I can have my time freeze when I play?

I lose on time a lot too so I know how the time slides by.

If you look at the above, you can see 1) that your opponent was actually using a fair amount of time and 2) that you were using more time on most moves. It adds up quickly.

Martin_Stahl

2 days ago

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#3

extrafluff wrote:

I keep losing to either time or people are beating me with a response time of under 1 second in Bullet. I keep getting told there is no cheating and they are receiving Lag Forgiveness and that’s why they seem almost stop time or move at unbelievable speed with almost perfect accuracy like a computer.
Is it possible to sign up for this Lag Forgiveness as well so I can have my time freeze when I play?

Lag forgiveness is automatically applied though the site only compensates for a certain amount and everyone is treated the same.

https://support.chess.com/en/articles/8652311-what-is-lag-in-live-chess

extrafluff

1 day ago

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#4

I don’t think you’re all understanding. My moves on my end (meaning me the actual person) are not taking as long as the game says I am yet I apparently am taking “so” much longer than my opponents. You can screenshot and show what the system says all day long, but if I were to be sitting next to you playing and show you my game you would see what I am referring to. Thanks for screenshotting my game, not sure how that helps me.

Do you know how I sign up for lag forgiveness?

justbefair

1 day ago

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#5

Well, you have no data to compare to the system data, so there is no way anyone can reasonably believe you.

The only way for you to make a legitimate argument is to provide reliable data that would show, for example, that instead of spending 5.3 seconds on move 20 above, you actually only spent x seconds , where x would be much lower than 5.3.

Chess.com provided some data on lag in one of the Support topics.

https://support.chess.com/en/articles/9010617-why-can-t-i-connect-to-chess-com-when-other-sites-are-working-fine

It shows the improvements being observed in the realtime chess network versus the previous arrangement with one live server. It looks like typical lag drops substantially.

You should use the link to make the charts legible but I think it demonstrates the efforts Chess. com is making to reduce lag. They say it is their number one priority.

Martin_Stahl

1 day ago

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#6

extrafluff wrote:

I don’t think you’re all understanding. My moves on my end (meaning me the actual person) are not taking as long as the game says I am yet I apparently am taking “so” much longer than my opponents. You can screenshot and show what the system says all day long, but if I were to be sitting next to you playing and show you my game you would see what I am referring to. Thanks for screenshotting my game, not sure how that helps me.
Do you know how I sign up for lag forgiveness?

The time taken on the client is only part of the calculation. If it takes too long for your move to be received by the server process then that value, minus any lag compensation, is the official move time.

extrafluff

13 hrs ago

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#7

So I guess why is provided to my opponents but not me? If my moves are lagging why does my time still get reduced significantly while my opponents seem to be making moves within fractions of a second? I have literally seen their time go back up and support states repeatedly that it’s lag forgiveness and all I have as evidence is the platforms system which is the exact thing I’m trying to figure out.

Martin_Stahl

9 hrs ago

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#8

extrafluff wrote:

So I guess why is provided to my opponents but not me? If my moves are lagging why does my time still get reduced significantly while my opponents seem to be making moves within fractions of a second? I have literally seen their time go back up and support states repeatedly that it’s lag forgiveness and all I have as evidence is the platforms system which is the exact thing I’m trying to figure out.

Both players have lag compensation but it's very possible some of your opponents don't have much lag and they're moved are happening more quickly than yours.

extrafluff

7 hrs ago

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#9

I understand that but have you or anyone you know ever made 10 moves in under 4 seconds? Seems a little excessive yeah?

Martin_Stahl

6 hrs ago

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#10

extrafluff wrote:

I understand that but have you or anyone you know ever made 10 moves in under 4 seconds? Seems a little excessive yeah?

Yes, it's possible with regular moves and even more possible with premoves