Rating refund not being refunded

He gets his points when chess.com gets to the case. How am I supposed to know how the staff over at chess.com operate?

He gets a win, because that evens out the rating. He lost 8 points to the cheater, so he gets 8 points back. Net change: 0

The discussion in this topic is about refunds when an opponent is closed for a fair play violation.

How that's handled is described here: https://support.chess.com/article/779-what-happens-when-someone-is-caught-cheating

That doesn't matter. The account was banned. He got his point back. The cheater may not have cheated in that specific game, but a different one, which got him banned. It doesn't matter for purposes of discussion.

The opponent was banned.

Skin got his rating points back.

When he played you, he was probably still rated in the 990s. Nothing suspicious is going on.

When you get your rating points refunded, you get a message saying that to prevent *potentially* unfair losses, …

In any case you’re completely missing the point. Whether it makes sense or not, it has happened. And he got his points back. 

It's based on the games checked and often tied to the pool. So, if was from blitz games then all losses to the closed account in the checked games get refunds, based on some limitations.

me personally i would not take this level of disrespect

My rating has finally been restored.

you gave a random image of twitch bits

are you sober

that still does nothing...?

you get a stable amount of rating for winning a game, and loose a stable amount for loosing, its ajusted base on how high they are rated

RATING IS LITERALLY A SKILL MARKER, the site lets you create an account at whatever rating but as you play actual games it changes

if you want to argue with me take it to fide and tell them how rating doesnt represent skill, more games won vs lost means u will rise in rating and face harder opponents, a 1500 could be worse than a 800 if they arent at the right rating but really theres a big difference between a 1500 and a 800, a 2200 is also much better than all of that...?

and like if i demoted myself to 600 for membership i could still easily farm my way back, to 800, theres a big skill difference and the rating system is made to ajust your rating to your skill level?? like your basically saying "lets offset ratings to encourage smurfing and make the experience worse for everyone and reward it with memberships while making farming and using alts to hack against your main a thing now" 

they allow you to trial lessons already

theres not much of ap oint of providing free lessons and if you loose against a cheater and lesson compensation for where they lost against a cheater is pretty useless, you can loose pretty much anything against an engine, tactics, planning, opening, endgame, midgame, theory it literally doesnt matter engines are 3000+ rated im pretty sure and by all means better than you by a lot 

thats the same thing except worse, encouraging alts to hack against mains, or trading in lost points instead of gained ones which is prety much worse, you lost it against a hacker theres not much you can just "learn" to fight engine

you have high glicko rd due to new account and if you keep winning it will go up

its to protect people from smurfing, say a 2500 player makes an account at 800 and plays a 1500, the 1500 shouldnt loose penalty for loosing to an 2500 

1. fide uses rating as a marker for skill for obt tournaments, they would not let a 1000 rated play a 2000 rated get paired normally...? literally chess is based on rating, i have not seen people use any other real indicator of skill level

2. "Rating SHOULD represent skill. However, when you play games, and then the person stalls this is one example of non-normal play. I am exposing it. Also, that's not a random pic of Twitch. It is a current money offer they have." its not a current money offer, its a way you can donate to streamers and that has literally nothing to do with this

your not exposing anything by giving someone membership when someone stals...? 

bro if a 500 looses to a 2500 yes the hell he doesnt need lessons on what he did wrong vs a 2500 at a 2500 level, it doesnt matter, hell yes he should stay at the 500 intelectual level

the same goes for fighting an engine, it doesnt even matter its like 10 points and at a low rating 10 points doesnt do anything, were not rewarding them with points but just refunding what they lost because they were playing someone with an engine (which  is first of all unrealistlcally higher rated of 3000 in which the rating system would give you -0 for loosing if your low rated against it) and second of all unfair play because the opponent isnt using skill but engine 

its not worse for everyone, having people smurf, use alts to hack, using hacks because now you can do actual rating damage is just far worse???? like even if there was a con in refunding points that is just making it from 10 point issue of "small" to more incentive to break the rules  which is far worse, but there isnt a con because refunding just means they are wiping the game from existence in a sense because the opponent was illigitament

theres nothing to learn from loosing from a hacker as much as playing vs a high rated engine?? so theres not much essence in a lesson because you would loose at literaly every aspect of the game vs an engine 

can you read the full post instead of quoting one line??

a 800 will not loose points vs a 2500 if they loose or if any it will be -1 or -2 

not gonna lie if hes just trolling im ignoring 

There's no current issue that I'm aware of. Rating refunds that are applied will show up after you play the next game in the time control as I understand it.

I lost to an obvious cheater. Never got my refund.