Players Abandoning Games and Leaving Window Open

"it's only a game, what's so serious about it ?" (chrisr2212)

Games are mean to be fun, it is not fun to be siting there looking a timer count to zero. You should be more considered to other people, if you are no going to play more the game, then resign. What you win wasting the time of the other person?

"You have agreed to give some of your precious time away to your opponent to use as they see fit." (DKof)

No.  Me and the other player, both of us agree that we are going to spend our time playing a game together. I totally understand that something important happens and the other player can't keep on playing, in that case, why no resigning before standing up?

" If they decide to spend their entire allotment on one move, so be it."

Sure, why no? people with not experience on fast live chess does this. I don't have a problem with this. My problem is with people who is not longer playing. People who is not thinking a move or nothing and they just let the other person waiting for something that is not going to happend.

"If you don't like the way they are using their time, resign."

One more time, they are using nothing, they stand up and go to do something else, this is not "using their time" this is wasting other peoples time. And they should resign before wasting the time of other player.

You are mistaken.  Time controls are very specific as are the rules.  During your opponents turn, you have limited options. I hate to be the one to break this to you, demanding that your opponent has to move at a particular time or ever is not one of the options. Get use to it. Once your game has started, the time controls are set.  No, sorry, changing the controls after the game has started would not be a "Good" thing.  I would also caution against reading too much into someone agreeing to play a game with you.  They might not have EXACTLY the same motives as you.  They may be checking their CPU loading and wanted to open another (heavily scripted) browser window.

I am not demanding that my oponent have to move at any time. I don't see how from the quote you show you get such conclusion.

I am saying that if the other player have something else to do and can't finish the game, then resign before leaving the board.

I am no asking for this to become a rule, I am trying to reason the people who does this to be considered to the other player and don't waste their time.

" I would also caution against reading too much into someone agreeing to play a game with you."

Sorry, English is not my mother leanguage, this sentence makes not sence to me, can you explain in a more simple way, please?

"They may be checking their CPU loading and wanted to open another (heavily scripted) browser window"

For that matter they can play a computer, you know that is an option too?. If all they want is to perform some test on their conection, or whaever, there is also better tools than a chess game. There is plenty of tools that will not abuse other people, if you know what I mean.

Ok, let's start by noting that we agree that there is no rule which says "you are not allowed to let your time run out while your board is unattended".  This is true for both online chess and OTB chess.  Don't you wonder why there is not such a rule?  I see the good sense and wisdom in not having such a rule.

You might argue that it would depend on the "intentions" of your opponent, that is, whether they are planning on returning to the game or have abandoned it.  A rule which would include how you "feel" about returning or not to your game is meaningless.  Obviously, intentions and feelings can change in a split second.  So if there should be no rule, then what?  There is the question of your opponent being inconsiderate.

It may just be a personality difference, but, I do not feel that an opponent can be inconsiderate of me if he does not violate any rules.  For example, if he stalls in a losing position and is able to frustrate me into resigning, I would have to say "Well Played".  He effectively used the rules of the game to produce a win.  You are looking for too much if you want more than your opponent to follow the rules.

BTW, there are some rules which when broken have only minor penalties but large payoffs.  To those that use these methods I would have to say "Extremely Well Played!".

The solution to this is simple:if a player has not made a move for X time, a very annoying sound will play. This sound cannot be shut off until you make a move. If you mute your computer, you will lose the game and a scary picture of a clown laughing at you will pop up. This clown picture cannot be closed, much like those annoying rickrolls that require you to restart your computer. 

By the way, I lost the game. 

LOL!

This is the best answer IMO.  Because this happens SO much, I only play 5 -10 minutes games and Online/Turn-Based games.

I wonder if that's why this guy's account was closed?

http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=52664209

Or does that message mean he closed his own account?

I am not trying to create any rule. I made this clear on the same message you are quoting from me, so why are you explaining to me that it is not a good idea to create such rule?

There is other things that are not rules but still they are moral, or ethical. there is some rules that are inmoral... and so on.

I am not asking to create any rule.

I am aware that this happens OTB too, that doesnt make it any more legitic, if that was your intention.

There are several diferent kinds of games. There is tournament games, there is informal games... etc.

If I am playing a tournament and the other player wals out the room and get in his car and leave the place, while his time is runing down. I would care nothing about it. At least OTB game I saw him walk out the place, I can stand up too and wonder arround. Becouse tournements are rule tigth, and I am sopouse to be more profecional and keep it together while the other player is on the airport taking his plane to Brazil, or whaever.

If I am playing a friendly game with someone. And this person, sudenly, out of nowhere, just stands up and walk away. I must certanly think that person is a freak. I would probably yield: "hey!, where the hell are you going?".

On the online games, there is not way to know if the other person stands up, or whaever...

I think I have repeted my point enougth times. I don't wnat to create a rule, I whant people to be considered with the other player and if you are quiting the game, then resign.

Now. I am tires of explaing this thing over and over againg, I am not going to go over this same point in this message againg. Instead of that I going to do something else.

I want to create a rule, that if a person is having a hart atack that person have to resing before die. Becouse you are wasting the time of the other player. So the rule says:

"If we learn that a person died while playing a game, and didn't resign before passing away, then we will close that person's account for wasting the time of the other player".

Does it sound good to you?

Click the name and in the drop down menu there is a "block blah" option.

There are SO, SO many people who play chess on Chess.com who abandon a game when they are losing. It's incredibly lame and rude. I'm not even sure if the good folks at Chess.com are aware of just how many people are abandoning games. And the only way to make a point of it is to REPORT them. Here's what I do.....First, I give them a "thumbs down", and then I go to report and click on "Quitting or Abandoning a game." And finally, I "BLOCK" them so that I will never have to deal with them again. Very simple. And as per the person "DKof US" who wrote the previous comment, it's NOT about understanding the concept of TIME CONTROLS, it's about the fact that people are abusing the rules that Chess.com has set up for people around the world to enjoy a friendly game of chess. When it becomes unfriendly, as with anything in life, is when someone is disrespectful, selfish, and rude. And why would you resign if someone is abusing the game or the rules??? When you do that, you are giving the "Rule Breakers" power, and they will continue to abuse the game of chess and the GIFT of having the opportunity to play a free game of chess with people all over the world. Chess.com truly is a wonderful gift to all those who love the game of chess.

Just report for stalling/abandoning using the report button and then block promptly.
that said, chess.com is ENTIRELY to blame here, very weak web architecture design, it would take but a moment to implement an "idle tab open detection" script which ad pop-up websites use to detect if a window is running idle or is active, there should be a timer that runs a maximum of 1 minute for any idle window for games less than 10 minutes as it would be unrealistic to assume someone would walk off during a game AND have other tabs open that are active instead of the one where you are playing a game of chess.
and to all those saying "you agreed to give time to your opponent", stupidest thing I've heard all day, i did not agree to give my opponent anything, i have no agreements with those i intend to crush (jk, sounds super edgy though ).

This is just a matter of common courtesy and human decency. Griefing your opponent by intentionally wasting their time just because you are losing is such a shameless loser move, regardless of if it is against the rules or not.

It's a bit like if you were playing an IRL game with somebody and when you started to lose you decided to screech at the top of your lungs every curse under the sun for the rest of the games allotted time to grief or try to throw your opponent off their game. Sure it's not against the rules, but it's such shameful and unsportsmanlike behavior.

If anyone is not moving in such a way that they "abandon" a game (meaning they leave chess.com and are no longer "connected"), then that is wrong, inconsiderate, disrespectful, and a mockery of the game of chess. So what happens is a player walks away from a game in a chess tournament and they don't come back?? Eventually of course, they lose. But they will also be told about it. It's just plain rude to do that, and it's rude to abandon a game online as well. When people abandon an online game of chess with me, I sit and wait for their clock to run out––because you have to or you will lose the game––and then after the game is over and it's apparent that my rude opponent has lost by abandonment, then I "block" them from ever playing me again. Their loss. Easy as that. Yes, it is VERY rude and VERY disrespectful to abandon a game of chess. It's also very childlike and immature. Have some respect for your opponent and also for the game of chess.

Aliij8000 and MeltingSkiesAbove pretty much summed it up best. And I agree....anyone who says that "you agreed to give time to your opponent" is basically admitting that they themselves are inconsiderate and heartless jerks who have no respect for the game of chess itself, not to mention any opponent they play either. The people who say that type of crap are the same people who are abandoning games when they are losing. Poor losers. They should be put in the corner of the room in a third-grade classroom to sit in a chair with their personally handwritten sign taped to their chair that reads, "I'm a cry-baby, and I deserve to lose."

I did it today against a guy who played like a barbarian and I felt like being a bummer to him...so I made him wait 20mn until it automatically shut down but I was there the whole time

Not sure what you mean loicmonpellier.....your opponent who played like a "barbarian." What does it mean when someone is playing like a barbarian. I'm just wondering, that's all.

Just a guy who goes to take my two knights with by sacrificing his two bishops after my openings

Whenever someone abandons their game like this I instantly report them for quitting

well suit yourself....I don't really give a darn

funny how people don't actually realize that there aren't an infinite amount of people of each elo range, once they get blocked by enough people from their elo range, they will be facing only their own kind . then again, people with brains eventually rise up the ladder and no longer have to deal with the likes of them, because only low elo noobs and children do this stuff. this hasn't happened to me since around 1000 rapid.