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Am I allowed to enter a tournament for 2000+ if I am unrated and is that a smart choice?
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Aug 24, 2021
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#4
if the rules say you can then it is up to you, you can tell them that you are not that strong if you want to.
Aug 24, 2021
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Chessisfunforme wrote:
if the rules say you can then it is up to you, you can tell them that you are not that strong if you want to.
The rules say nothing about unrateds though.
At a glance, I would say it is not permitted for you to join since it says minimum 2000 FIDE to join on their webpage https://new.uschess.org/spice-cup-open) or 2199 USCF rating. You do not meet that qualification.
It sounds like this would be your first tournament since you are unrated. I would suggest entering a tournament with a lower rated division so you can be competitive and also be able to focus on mechanics of tournament play such as documenting moves, etc. If you dominate, you can always enter future tournaments in a higher division as indicated by your rating. Getting beaten game after game by 2000+ won't do anything for your exposure or confidence. Based on your online ratings, it does not appear that you are ready to be competitive at the SPICE cup level.
Craig
Aug 25, 2021
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#8
I had the same problem growing up. My parents were always setting me up for failure by pushing me to do the impossible and was always getting over my head because of it. It is insanely soul crushing to be in that position. I never realized it until retrospective, though.
I know your parents are going to be disappointed that their child isn't playing against elite GMs, but unfortunately, you have to realize your parents don't have your own best interests in mind, at least for chess. You are your own person, and you are going to have to advocate for yourself. I would also strongly suggest you start looking for outside adults, like 30+ year old adults, to get advice and help you along, but in the end, it is going to fall on you, and you should accept that.
Aug 25, 2021
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MelvinGarvey wrote:
I don't care what parents say or want, but here my advice: always go (in chess) for the strongest you can get. (which I always did).
Seriously, out of such a strong tournament, you can get a rating at 2000 by scoring just 2/9 (if the average rating of them is 2220, with 2/9, you score 22% == -220 == Elo 2000.)
Play a C tournament, and then drag around the places some low rating (like 1700 for scoring an amazing 7/9 upon average 1480) for it's then so slow to gain points.
But that's just how I see it.
Problem is, I won't win any games. One look at my rating proves this.
If you want to pursue chess, going to a chess camp or getting a few coaching sessions would let your explore your potential before diving into the deep end, as well as giving you some good pointers appropriate for your level.
Good luck,
Craig
Aug 25, 2021
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MelvinGarvey wrote:
AunTheKnight a écrit :
Problem is, I won't win any games. One look at my rating proves this.
I began chess competition with two years Rapid, in the middle of which, I played the B tournament (U1800 that year) in Paris yearly individual Championship (slow games). I began well with 4/6, but due to my lack of experience and lack of coaching, I lost a won game at the 7th round, in the most sleep depriving fashion, and finished miserably with 4/9 for it. Performance 1635, when my Rapid was 1450.
The next year, I signed up again for the Paris Championship, and realizing I could plaid to play the A tournament (1700-2200 or such), I did so.
And while my rapid rating was only 1500, I scored 4.5/9, and a performance at 1935, which, eventually, along my last year performance, produced a rating at 1700.
My Rapid rating followed soon.
See, you can't learn poop by playing over and over again the same low rated fellows, you need to confront yourself to stronger if you want to learn anything.
It went same, three years later, where I was stucked at about 1800, beating some 2000+ and 2100+, but losing to weaker players for not being able to focus against them: I made it to 2000+ by seizing the opportunity to play a tournament where I scored 2/9 vs average 2285. I suffered, but here the thing:
Before that, I would play like 50 slow games in a year, but only 10% of my games were against players 2000 and above. Once I got rated 2000+, sure, I tilted some bit, but was then able to play 50% of my games against 2000 and above players.
Soon, I was not over rated anymore, cos I learned. The harsh way, but so it is.
Now, sure, have it your way, not my problem after all.
I'll remember this! Thanks @MelvinGarvey
Aug 25, 2021
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craigh4242 wrote:
If you want to pursue chess, going to a chess camp or getting a few coaching sessions would let your explore your potential before diving into the deep end, as well as giving you some good pointers appropriate for your level.
Good luck,
Craig
Thanks
I think that you should because you will learn from your mystakes, hopefully.
Aug 25, 2021
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jvdull wrote:
I think that you should because you will learn from your mystakes, hopefully.
I wish… but they all play so high above me I won’t learn anything…
Your parents are correct. Join chess tournaments as many as you can. The more experienced you will be the better you will play. You are very lucky having your parents as your managers. I did not have that support, I did not have money to join chess tournaments. So I just played at home.
Aug 28, 2021
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GrandioseStrategy wrote:
Your parents are correct. Join chess tournaments as many as you can. The more experienced you will be the better you will play. You are very lucky having your parents as your managers. I did not have that support, I did not have money to join chess tournaments. So I just played at home.
Ah. Thanks for the answer.
Aug 28, 2021
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#18
If you can enter I think you should. Even if you lose every game (and considering your 1500 cc you probably will, no offense) it will be a great learning expirenece!
Aug 28, 2021
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#19
Yeah I would love to be able to do that... but generally unless I do a big open tournaments I can only play up a section.
My parents want me to play in the SPICE Cup for exposure, but I am clearly not at their level…