Strike bug- 1 second arenas are a bad idea.

CHECK THESE FORUMS OUT TOO FOR MORE INFO:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/petition-for-the-cheat-detection-for-hyperbullet-to-be-a-lot-smarter

https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/are-these-1-second-tournaments-a-good-idea 

If this info shouldn't be public, I'm sorry.

So in a club that I'm an admin in (that specializes in super fast time control chess), I recently created a 1 second arena. I thought it would be a fun experience, and would be more competitive and strategical than most arenas.

The problem:

One of the people in the club recently told me that they got an hour suspension from live chess and a warning for sandbagging. They suspected that they got this because of achieving a high winning streak in the arena. So I checked it out.

In the arena, FOUR PEOPLE with scores were under others with a score of zero. Two of them had streaks of 15+, one of which reported this bug to the club. I'm assuming these four got a warning for... doing well in the 1 second arena? 

Solutions:

I think the Chess.com warning system is possibly automatic, and marked these people as sandbagging suspects because they won a lot of games in a row really quickly. So I think maybe the warning system should also take into account time control, because in time controls like this rating has a much less effect because this type of chess requires a totally different skill. Ok, done. I hope this gets solved because this is a serious issue.

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oh true. I think it could be because that account is monitored by chess.com or something? I'm coming into this without any background knowledge XD. it could also possible be because it was a blitz arena so there was more time between games

Naka has said on stream that he has to request speed run accounts and that everyone he beats gets their rating points back, so chess.com is definitely aware and involved and could easily augment any automated actions that could get in the way.

Hikaru's games are typically 20+ moves, the main reason they were stricken with sandbagging was because the moves were typically around 3 or 4.

the most i got in this tourney was like 6 moves

Yeah

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nice xD

i got 9 moves in one game, where my opponent and i premoved every single move and nothing interrupted our premoves lol

@Vinumon555 was closed unfairly I believe. Look at his games, his losses were all from 1sec

Hi guys

so in a hyperbullet tournament, 2 nonsus people got cheat detected because of how bad the cheat detection is in 1 second. One was lucky enough to get a warning and ban in live chess for 60 minutes, but the other got banned for fair play completely. Since publicly shaming banned accounts is permitted, here is the banned one @Vinumon555. If you want the one with the warning, PM me. type +1 to agree with the petition

credits to @WolfKid418

Hi guys

so in a hyperbullet tournament, 2 nonsus people got cheat detected because of how bad the cheat detection is in 1 second. One was lucky enough to get a warning and ban in live chess for 60 minutes, but the other got banned for fair play completely. Since publicly shaming banned accounts is permitted, here is the banned one @Vinumon555. If you want the one with the warning, PM me. type +1 to agree with the petition

credits to @WolfKid418

also, did u get that noble

EVERYONE CHANGE YOUR STATUS #BringVinBack #Fix1SecArenas

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UPDATE: @Vinumon555 was closed for losing a bunch of games in a small number of moves, which is supposedly sandbagging. Turn off the cheat bots in less than 10 second games, who would even sandbag in 10sec? super fast games are worth less rating points... -__-

well chess.com cheat detection bots usually warn people for losing a ton of games in a few amount of moves, which we did in the 1sec arena